From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Tue Oct 27 22:24:46 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2468F45BFAB for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 22:24:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CLR8Y6lF2z4HrZ for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 22:24:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id E75CA45BD67; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 22:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71D945C08D for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 22:24:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CLR8Y0pgKz4J4y; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 22:24:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (v-critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.55.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BACAC1AF133; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 22:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 09RMOgbq061250 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 27 Oct 2020 22:24:42 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 09RMOgkb061249; Tue, 27 Oct 2020 22:24:42 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: Oliver Pinter cc: Baptiste Daroussin , "arch@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Switch the default locale to C.UTF-8 before FreeBSD 13 In-reply-to: From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <20201027154720.mjmn5cofvkqoyd5w@ivaldir.net> <12348.1603826625@critter.freebsd.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <61247.1603837482.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 22:24:42 +0000 Message-ID: <61248.1603837482@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4CLR8Y0pgKz4J4y X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of phk@critter.freebsd.dk designates 130.225.244.222 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=phk@critter.freebsd.dk X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.09 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[phk]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.dk]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.004]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.07)[-0.067]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.02)[-1.015]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[arch] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 22:24:46 -0000 -------- Oliver Pinter writes: > > > I would like to switch the default locale to C.UTF-8 in FreeBSD 13.0 > > > > > > What opinion on the matter? > > > > Yes please. > > > > > Yes for C.UTF-8 and no for other. Proper and not breaking collation is v= ery > important. Yes for finally dragging our ass into the 21st century and turning UTF8 on= by default -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .