Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:30:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com> To: Dave Hayes <dave@jetcafe.org> Cc: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, <chat@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-ID: <20020904151639.H13440-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <200209041221.g84CL2183082@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org>
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On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Dave Hayes wrote: > Neal E Westfall <nwestfal@directvinternet.com> writes: > > On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Dave Hayes wrote: > >> Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> writes: > >> > You may say some activity (e.g. killing another human being) is > >> > "not right". What you really mean is "it's unethical"; to borrow > >> > from Dave Hayes, you are actually saying that it would violate > >> > your internal code of conduct. What this actually means, however, > >> > is that you will not tolerate it in yourself, and so you will also > >> > not tolerate it in others. > >> > >> This is where we disagree. > >> > >> I claim you should not worry about what others do, your focus should > >> be on what YOU do, and that will maximize gain for you and (somewhat) > >> society. You appear to claim that we have to focus on what OTHERS do > >> and controlling them achieves more gain for you and society. > > > > But aren't you contradicting yourself? > > Hopefully. ;) This brings up an interesting question. Is it rational to attempt to argue with someone who denies rationality? The answer would seem to be no, but given my worldview pre-commitments, no purported irrationalist could ever make good on his claim to be an irrationalist! Being made in the image of God, he still has some remnants of his knowledge of God, and he could never live completely irrationally. As such, he is always accessible to the God who is there, should He decide to grant mercy to the miserable wretch. ;-) (Romans 9) Neal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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