From owner-ctm-users@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 15:29:11 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B45437B401 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tower.berklix.org (bsd.bsn.com [194.221.32.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6965A43FBF for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:29:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from tower.berklix.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tower.berklix.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5GMTHr6021417; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:29:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@tower.berklix.org) Received: (from jhs@localhost) by tower.berklix.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h5GMT4WG021414; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:29:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 00:29:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200306162229.h5GMT4WG021414@tower.berklix.org> To: ctm-users@freebsd.org Fcc: sent-mail From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/vsl/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 16 Jun 2003 21:01:58 BST." <200306162001.h5GK1wHh091586@grimreaper.grondar.org> cc: Mark Murray Subject: Re: CTM - any users left? X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:29:11 -0000 Mark Murray wrote (to current@, but thread [also] merits response by those most affected: ctm-users@ : > Last time I looked, we had _very_ few CTM users. I use CTM (even though I have DSL flat rate). Apart from direct subscribers, there may be people on exploders. CTM Generator Stephen Montgomery-Smith (cc'd) might know, At least one friend used to ftp the deltas, but didn't get them by subscription. Other friend used to copy my local copy (no longer, but maybe others do). What with the mirrors, one can't know who gets it that way. Occasionally they end up on magazine CDROMs too etc. > Is there any reason that the CTM stuff should not be a port? Try inverting the question ! Or to be fair to all, phrase question neutraly: "Would on balance, after all aspects & users etc are considered, FreeBSD be a better or worse `product', if CTM was in src/ or ports/ ? " My Opinion, FWIW: I recall the source is small, please leave CTM in src/. My 2c.: Throw out 4M of games/ if you need to save space. Other opinions ? (Don't forget to cc: Mark Murray who may not be on this ctm-users@freebsd.org list) - Julian Stacey Freelance Systems Engineer, Unix & Net Consultant, Munich. Ihr Rauchen => mein allergischer Kopfschmerz ! Schnupftabak probieren.