From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 3 12:21:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FF016A421 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 12:21:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1919613C4B8 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2007 12:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 69so1204546wra for ; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 05:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.54.4 with SMTP id c4mr5942343aga.1183465292268; Tue, 03 Jul 2007 05:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.4? ( [67.189.184.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 71sm2797603wry.2007.07.03.05.21.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Jul 2007 05:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 08:21:38 -0400 To: User Questions Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: <3507.24.1.37.132.1183435028.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> References: <54357.74.64.6.149.1183317914.squirrel@mail.el.net> <3507.24.1.37.132.1183435028.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20070703081111.B306.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.31 [en] From: Gerard Subject: Re[2]: flash X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: User Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 12:21:33 -0000 On July 02, 2007 at 11:57PM Richard Lynch wrote: > "Need" is relative, but personally, I stopped installing Flash even > operating systems where it actually sort of works, albeit sucking down > CPU and RAM like there's no tomorrow, and crashing on a semi-regular > basis... > > I found my surfing experience vastly improved without Flash. > > Formerly dog-slow sites are much faster. > > And there isn't any content I've felt deprived to not get. > > Obviously, folks who spend their free time (or work-time :-)) watching > youtube would feel differently, but... Personally, I disagree. Many sites that I use, including business sites, require the use of Flash. Your statement that Flash is only relevant for those who view 'YouTube' is grossly incorrect. It is due to the numerous problems of getting Flash to work correctly under FreeBSD, regardless of which browser the end user is employing, that I keep a Windows machine so as to facilitate the viewing of Flash content. IMHO, this is one of the reasons that more users do not use alternative operating systems like FBSD. I would love to see a simple procedure that would install Firefox or Opera, with Flash, Java and possibly PDF support installed and configured. I have seen too many individuals simply give up on the procedure and return to using Windows for browsing. A simple search of this forum will prove that point out. It just shouldn't have to be that complicated. -- Gerard