From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 31 10:21:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835D41065674 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:21:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.76.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A638FC16 for ; Thu, 31 May 2012 10:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.76.211]) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321226A6010; Thu, 31 May 2012 12:21:28 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.0x20.net Received: from mail.0x20.net ([217.69.76.211]) by mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.76.211]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iyOq_Fpmu-yw; Thu, 31 May 2012 12:21:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [IPv6:2001:aa8:fffb:1::3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB7F26A6002; Thu, 31 May 2012 12:21:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from e-new.0x20.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q4VALR7M018304; Thu, 31 May 2012 12:21:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars@e-new.0x20.net) Received: (from lars@localhost) by e-new.0x20.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id q4VALR7v018119; Thu, 31 May 2012 12:21:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from lars) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 12:21:27 +0200 From: Lars Engels To: Damien Fleuriot Message-ID: <20120531102127.GV39168@e-new.0x20.net> References: <4FC742BF.4080005@my.gd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="L6+lUPd1XOsaFBch" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FC742BF.4080005@my.gd> X-Editor: VIM - Vi IMproved 7.3 X-Operation-System: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE-p6 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 10:21:29 -0000 --L6+lUPd1XOsaFBch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:06:55PM +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >=20 > On 5/30/12 8:20 PM, David Chisnall wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > >=20 > > This is off-topic, so please feel free to disregard it, but I'm sending= it to this list in the hope that it will reach a largish number of users. = =20 > >=20 > > I am currently looking at updating some of our advocacy material (which= advertises exciting new features like SMP support), and before I do I'd li= ke to get a better feel for why the rest of you are using FreeBSD. If you = had to list the three things you most like about FreeBSD, which would you p= ick? Are they the same as when you first started using it? =20 > >=20 > > David >=20 >=20 > We're using FreeBSD here only for firewall boxes. >=20 >=20 > Reasons for using FBSD for firewalls: > - CARP > - relayd > - PF > - pfsync >=20 > Reasons I can't get management to use FBSD for regular servers (web, > haproxy, db...): > - "hard" to use > - update process is "hard", time-consuming and annoying (as opposed to > debian's for example) >=20 > A regular debian update is 5 minutes + reboot > A regular FBSD update is about 1.5 hour + 3 reboots (after > installkernel, installworld, rebuild of ports) But how often do you need to update? --L6+lUPd1XOsaFBch Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/HRicACgkQKc512sD3afj6ZgCgvKoHl+k/OZuGHQxWh/IbXd6V I4AAn2xfB7OKYZr9S00P6eppvrYdhT32 =itOA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --L6+lUPd1XOsaFBch--