From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Aug 14 13:40:59 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4581A3C0021 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 13:40:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from mail.kukulies.org (mail.kukulies.org [116.203.115.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BSl2L10rTz3TkV for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 13:40:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416ED10276A for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 15:40:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.kukulies.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.kukulies.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nlo7n4HyprWh for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 15:40:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from christophs-mbp.fritz.box (p57b45204.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [87.180.82.4]) by mail.kukulies.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9D9AB102769 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2020 15:40:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Christoph Kukulies Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5E2BC3D4-1572-4B4F-9D24-35C471591DBC"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.1\)) Subject: Re: 5.25" Floppy disk drive not recognized Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 15:40:54 +0200 References: <46FFA8F9-90AA-42DE-8E8B-CA4383CA7AC6@kukulies.org> <20200814101021.c71f6c23768a5bef685739fe@sohara.org> <20200814071030.3f319e5a@scorpio.seibercom.net> To: User Questions In-Reply-To: <20200814071030.3f319e5a@scorpio.seibercom.net> Message-Id: <76A64DE1-B61B-405E-A623-C886819E1977@kukulies.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BSl2L10rTz3TkV X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kuku@kukulies.org has no SPF policy when checking 116.203.115.43) smtp.mailfrom=kuku@kukulies.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.01 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+,3:~,4:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:116.203.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[87.180.82.4:received]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_SPACES(0.50)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; SIGNED_SMIME(-2.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.54)[0.537]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.86)[0.862]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kukulies.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.71)[0.709]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record] X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.33 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2020 13:40:59 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_5E2BC3D4-1572-4B4F-9D24-35C471591DBC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Fine. There may be many solutions. Actually I=E2=80=99m trying to use = the tools I have nd not buy extra hard- and software. I might also buy a used ISA-bus computer with a VGA Monitor :) FreeBSD always has been a good platform to experiment at low level. Meanwhile I=E2=80=99ve proceeded a bit as can be seen in a previous = post. Only this is a riddle to me: # dd if=3D/dev/fd0 of=3Dfd_dump dd: /dev/fd0: Device not configured 0+0 records in 0+0 records out 0 bytes transferred in 0.000262 secs (0 bytes/sec) Also # cat /dev/fd0 >dump cat: /dev/fd0: Device not configured Why? I recall there were devices like fd.360 fd.1200 fd.1440=20 or some such in earlier times where you could choose the right device. Also using mtools gives me similar messages: # mdir plain_io: Device not configured init A: could not read boot sector Cannot initialize 'A:' =E2=80=94 Christoph > Am 14.08.2020 um 13:10 schrieb Jerry : >=20 > On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 10:10:21 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith stated: >> On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 09:42:34 +0200 >> Christoph Kukulies wrote: >>=20 >>> I=E2=80=99m trying to access a 5.25=E2=80=9C floppy disk drive if = anyone here knowing >>> what a =E2=80=9Efloppy=E2=80=9C disk drive is. :) =20 >>=20 >> The last time I used one of those with FreeBSD I installed from >> it, back then it just worked of course. >=20 > I actually had a friend who needed to copy some very old (obviously) > data off of a few 5.25" or 3.5" disks. I don't remember off hand = which. > Anyway, he puirchasded a USB floppy drive (they are very cheap) and > plugged it into the system. I should probably add at this point that = he > was using a Win 10 system. In any case, they system recognized the = drive > and set it up automatically. My friend then proceeded to copy the = files > to the HD. Problem solved, almost. Apparently, not all of the data was > readable off of the disks, they were well over 10 years old. I believe > he was going to try and run SpinRite on the damaged drives and see if > it could recover any data. I have no idea if he ever did, or if it > succeeded. >=20 > In any case, you might find that solution acceptable. >=20 > --=20 > Jerry --Apple-Mail=_5E2BC3D4-1572-4B4F-9D24-35C471591DBC Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCCCc0w ggSQMIIDeKADAgECAggYVYMhomAL1zANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADBmMQswCQYDVQQGEwJERTEzMDEG A1UECgwqREdOIERldXRzY2hlcyBHZXN1bmRoZWl0c25ldHogU2VydmljZSBHbWJIMSIwIAYDVQQD DBlkZ25zZXJ2aWNlIENBIDIgVHlwZSBFOlBOMB4XDTIwMDUxNjE1Mjc1OVoXDTIxMDUxNjE1Mjc1 OVowbzELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxITAfBgNVBAUTGDQwMDAwMDAwNWVjMDA4ZGQzNzNhZDhlYzEbMBkG A1UEAwwSQ2hyaXN0b3BoIEt1a3VsaWVzMSAwHgYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhFrdWt1QGt1a3VsaWVzLm9y ZzCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBAKug1655hQWRmOtGAShZLbMwDtrm7rAH 7p1oPtE/5KpTpJZe8LHPxxvW0EAd2JcLtEhdvAi7smhZ/giJ3IBK7OYmdaCvuQ6MFvJpkmLkQ9TO 4+RLW+PkBk8nFIUe+PQG+VurpWc8pbU4IRsWS3pEUgov9+LF6VtyYBHKD2HZwe46YBwUq7l0EHxc aa98ewCMO43XznlqjE+oKxwaS2nl1rL/SPVlfGmKqHkdSKEKl6yR1LCcI3J3HP56kqmIrvtySr7q UZVsibA+D6vArqklO99WKQmt0b4IX6TXouvAA6bNoF1FhYUyihm4omMWZkdTs7Gv5rr1fzPWXcev cMfJdtUCAwEAAaOCATcwggEzMB0GA1UdDgQWBBSQh9N17gCH/igJy5ftrVaJNm6SCTAMBgNVHRMB Af8EAjAAMB8GA1UdIwQYMBaAFOnGk9HVDwZkcupqlj66EPJUVLJ5MFYGA1UdIARPME0wSwYMKwYB BAH7KwIBAwIIMDswOQYIKwYBBQUHAgEWLWh0dHA6Ly9zZWM1LmRnbnNlcnZpY2UuZGUvcG9saWNp ZXMvaW5kZXguaHRtbDA+BgNVHR8ENzA1MDOgMaAvhi1odHRwOi8vc2VjNS5kZ25zZXJ2aWNlLmRl L2NybC9jcmwyLXR5cGUtZS5jcmwwDgYDVR0PAQH/BAQDAgSwMB0GA1UdJQQWMBQGCCsGAQUFBwMC BggrBgEFBQcDBDAcBgNVHREEFTATgRFrdWt1QGt1a3VsaWVzLm9yZzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFAAOC AQEALUBRNzLAUiPi29LLATqWmrUlyacMVAtjdROQMd/AVPj0mUqTMoDO+YoWICOSEn/nEyb2Lrrz JNGqC6KO0CNROaWcEhFadKx4qtp9t26Qe/EkO0XbXexIfBxFl1ynQA54D0qtPb/SUZvTy0tq8oBt FdsIU+cXAzigEz2Z9nziHBMqThoKzAZSrk/sPvxT6MNMC/BMGlHGl0DV//wwI5vlzJiKS8iXFyxf 5VrN1IwgRyqXD8JsgF1BuEqcloSJ3JnWUGQCTURFasZDJlP0f/KJS8odUpEWDKnn6tt0RjBk0jUN i7z42ozzPn/o154AgXC2cNmROxC0gnvd+V/yIuAryDCCBTUwggQdoAMCAQICCFUcStdmrSX2MA0G CSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMGExCzAJBgNVBAYTAkRFMTMwMQYDVQQKDCpER04gRGV1dHNjaGVzIEdlc3Vu ZGhlaXRzbmV0eiBTZXJ2aWNlIEdtYkgxHTAbBgNVBAMMFGRnbnNlcnZpY2UgUm9vdCA3OlBOMB4X DTE2MTAyNjA5MjI0MVoXDTI0MTAyNjA5MjI0MVowZjELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUxMzAxBgNVBAoMKkRH TiBEZXV0c2NoZXMgR2VzdW5kaGVpdHNuZXR6IFNlcnZpY2UgR21iSDEiMCAGA1UEAwwZZGduc2Vy dmljZSBDQSAyIFR5cGUgRTpQTjCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBANyl8pQ/ dMejR9KXZs5ro81tFwNhloThlXe8sat79Tjjk6xFqE5E94//0vifJxMrp9RrCkNOo5oPG1djGOgk 0L0ucpHFUH9SQF/SHbm83QvWJXgqEJpjxOKZXTPbJRKVvY25niB0FTr2omRqypiP4A/w5xA6jSJ2 P02vV6WgcPfaLQkM+SEGPxV/pzpvuY3KfzJ9li9mXPNXaJD9y+jqIUvHbCAbuYKQ5nwEAcYMXDpP RQgDQGTrRiFExHEjsZeMzEFADZj9deg/h29AMO0w2YrSvkNReh/zvDZutdy25DZvjE3AUgStWgBC 7x+2ddOb2I61o6xbIsxlfq/mzNpAGoECAwEAAaOCAeowggHmMBIGA1UdEwEB/wQIMAYBAf8CAQAw HwYDVR0jBBgwFoAUAQwWG3Ry0zwU7iZ3t0kUU9j7ixswWwYIKwYBBQUHAQEETzBNMEsGCCsGAQUF BzABhj9odHRwOi8vcm9jc3AtZGduLmRnbnNlcnZpY2UuZGU6ODA4MC9lamJjYS9wdWJsaWN3ZWIv c3RhdHVzL29jc3AwagYDVR0gBGMwYTBfBgwrBgEEAfsrAgEEAgEwTzBNBggrBgEFBQcCARZBaHR0 cDovL3d3dy5kZ25zZXJ2aWNlLmRlL3RydXN0Y2VudGVyL3B1YmxpYy9kZ25zZXJ2aWNlL2luZGV4 Lmh0bWwwgZkGA1UdHwSBkTCBjjCBi6CBiKCBhYaBgmxkYXA6Ly9sZGFwLmRnbnNlcnZpY2UuZGU6 Mzg5L0NOPUNSTC0xLE89REdOJTIwU2VydmljZSUyMEdtYkgsQz1ERT9jZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZVJldm9j YXRpb25MaXN0P2Jhc2U/b2JqZWN0Q2xhc3M9Y1JMRGlzdHJpYnV0aW9uUG9pbnQwHQYDVR0OBBYE FOnGk9HVDwZkcupqlj66EPJUVLJ5MA4GA1UdDwEB/wQEAwIBBjAbBgkrBgEEAcBtAwUEDjAMBgor BgEEAcBtAwUBMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAA4IBAQCrvDn6Rcn7/FNq3SOJNfgYNfkdR5CiGoC4sZ+i 0dypCqqMXwbpRQjSriLS2eEe2V2Fms0E4SuBOEaxOg1nVjYafQVGtytRT0ueFIzB3VcnQl7oRFJ0 SHi9d/xjElAZkk8I8lytuWG57SabA72duEp7AaCWG3lVZIdNLy+rkNrfNvEUbqUh0TrZXgqpwwCL JjYF8vyC4I+xxNaXm3EmuNvgQ2j2dGp3Oxc0QbfLLOCbK/rOdDikaBN7kTqpfHls7pcIOhQrgrPV LzY/NHqG9zEpmjuQora63YHdu7BTzGp/DvcQwfyKa/gtb9LHn3AoSUqOKOMd02sUb/AxGhsNjMzJ MYIDFDCCAxACAQEwcjBmMQswCQYDVQQGEwJERTEzMDEGA1UECgwqREdOIERldXRzY2hlcyBHZXN1 bmRoZWl0c25ldHogU2VydmljZSBHbWJIMSIwIAYDVQQDDBlkZ25zZXJ2aWNlIENBIDIgVHlwZSBF OlBOAggYVYMhomAL1zANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFAKCCAXMwGAYJKoZIhvcNAQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEH ATAcBgkqhkiG9w0BCQUxDxcNMjAwODE0MTM0MDU0WjAvBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQxIgQgDSUTi0jyzIwE J1X7XQY29hyCTPw+QW7NLlFjzWinKHEwgYEGCSsGAQQBgjcQBDF0MHIwZjELMAkGA1UEBhMCREUx MzAxBgNVBAoMKkRHTiBEZXV0c2NoZXMgR2VzdW5kaGVpdHNuZXR6IFNlcnZpY2UgR21iSDEiMCAG A1UEAwwZZGduc2VydmljZSBDQSAyIFR5cGUgRTpQTgIIGFWDIaJgC9cwgYMGCyqGSIb3DQEJEAIL MXSgcjBmMQswCQYDVQQGEwJERTEzMDEGA1UECgwqREdOIERldXRzY2hlcyBHZXN1bmRoZWl0c25l dHogU2VydmljZSBHbWJIMSIwIAYDVQQDDBlkZ25zZXJ2aWNlIENBIDIgVHlwZSBFOlBOAggYVYMh omAL1zANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASCAQB9Ag7fFSdSMx74InIAZCH32vNI3q2rHAok31+AT+kGLtN2 A9xSwvIyGqzz0HygZNmn1kl/ehrqzAEWhMCdXPpD+mXuVAE0US5ECrh4wNvUyAjoave3Zetp5qC8 3ysX/v1ZB+EbVHQQGcjOT3/79phwSJFJU/8ZLck57hZ5b6llnzIU7EmRdojmBjXWv1WGfHWUR/VU 0tzLZsZtz14tc+ft5VtiKa9qCQLbcajV2Kz6YmaARfdLGCrJZOY8kkSVXO7nLf45+wfuXQ/cR0Vk JoXNPHBkNaA0KeasM5v/uvLYR/WoKZFweuzOyjc3oygO+QB6QIiNs1x/VlaCIomBVDKyAAAAAAAA --Apple-Mail=_5E2BC3D4-1572-4B4F-9D24-35C471591DBC--