From owner-freebsd-java Wed Mar 27 19:52: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from athlon.redexterior.com (ctv21225144019.ctv.es [212.25.144.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A1837B400 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:51:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from usa.net (localhost.redexterior.com [127.0.0.1]) by athlon.redexterior.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g2S3s2657181; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 04:54:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jdelucas@usa.net) Message-ID: <3CA293DA.7030604@usa.net> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 04:54:02 +0100 From: Jorge de Lucas y Cadenas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011126 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Bill Huey , Brian Behlendorf , Andrzej Bialecki , Brian Behlendorf , "Koster, K.J." , "'Aditya'" Subject: Re: [press@apache.org: PRESS RELEASE: ASF Reaches Agreement with Sun to Allow Open Source Java Implementations] References: <3CA18F65.E5350074@webgiro.com> <20020327094422.E1335-100000@yez.hyperreal.org> <20020328002610.GA2023@gnuppy.monkey.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org BTW: I just tested the Shared Source CLI (Rotor) from Microsoft, it compiles, and the basic examples do actually work. As Sun has never made things easy for Java developers under FreeBSD, I guess they might learn something from what MS is doing. Here is some useful information: http://www.microsoft.com/partner/products/microsoftnet/SharedSourceCsharpCLIFAQ.asp http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/dotnet/2002/03/27/archtour.html http://msdn.microsoft.com/net/sscli Of course I prefer Java but... this might be an alternative worth considering. Regards, Jorge Bill Huey wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:46:57AM -0800, Brian Behlendorf wrote: > >>Yep, there are lots of pessimistic scenarios in this. The question is >>whether anyone will care if/when high quality open source JVMs start to >>appear. >> > > It's pretty difficult to do so because of the size of shear size of the > JVM and because it's a moving target. > > Slightly off topic, but the Mono folks have a better chance of getting > a .NET compatible system useable more so that the JVM folks it seems. > > I'm quite interested in CLR and CIL in .NET in that having an universal > typing system across all languages targetted to it is very cool. > > >>>Sun is vitally interested in controlling the Java platform, so if they >>>give with one hand they need to take with the other hand somewhere >>>else... >>> >>It's always wise to view Sun's moves, like any large company's, with a >>degree of skepticism. >> > > It's good to know folks of your stature lurk on this list. Brian's one > of the key folks in Apache for those that don't know. Thanks for > dropping a note. > > ;-) > > bill > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message > . > > -- Jorge de Lucas y Cadenas FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE PGP Key Fingerprint20 = A21E AD4D C928 50F4 6F33 0D40 2AFD CFC3 5C57 AC03 Diffie-Hellman: PGP Key Fingerprint20 = 4A7C 54BE 8264 428C 026F 784F 4FE6 3403 C4B1 55AA GPG Key fingerprint = 65FE 47C3 8C5A 3045 6818 F6B3 111F D35D 33CD 66BB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message