Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 17:09:46 -0400 From: Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu> To: "Matthew N. Dodd" <winter@jurai.net> Cc: security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why is there no info on the QPOPPER hack? Message-ID: <v04011700b1dbf76d45ac@[128.113.24.47]> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.980722130309.9891C-100000@sasami.jurai.net> References: <199807221640.KAA06112@lariat.lariat.org>
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At 1:17 PM -0400 7/22/98, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: >On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Brett Glass wrote: >> This is Laramie, Wyoming! The person watching the system was an NT >> expert, and Heaven knows they have to know about security. But this >> happened so fast after first postings of exploits that there was no >> time. And there was no CERT advisory. > > This is clearly the cause of your problem. Your attempts to solve > your administrative problem with a technical solution will only give > you a false sense of security. > > Most people don't let the village idiot watch their horse for them. This really is overly hostile. I can sympathize with Brett, who just got bit bad over pathetic code, a lot more than someone who is just peeved because Brett is so worked up. Yes, he's a bit over the top, but at least I can understand *why* he might be. Seems to me you could reply at a few decibels lower volume than he's running at. It is also not going to do anything but add fuel to a fire, and the security list is probably already busier right now than it really needs to be. I can just see it now, we're going to have people quiting the security list because it's too busy with dueling flame-wars, and thus they'll miss the announcement of the next security problem. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe security" in the body of the message
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