From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Apr 9 19:05:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28700 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:05:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28669; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 19:05:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16697; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:35:38 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA00781; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:35:37 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980410113536.65458@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:35:36 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Smith , David Shanes Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, Brett Glass , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" References: <025301bd63fb$0b94bc80$1d43a8c0@shanes.personalogic.com> <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199804092124.OAA00915@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Thu, Apr 09, 1998 at 02:24:18PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 14:24:18 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: >> Here is Tim O'Reilly's response. > ... >>> BTW, the main focus was on internet software, not on >>> operating systems. > > Of course, operating systems are the foundation on which internet > software is built. And the promotional material for the "summit" made > that much pretty clear in its placement of the word "Linux". > > If Tim would like an introduction to Jordan, may I suggest he gets a > reference to me from Greg Lehey, and then I'll introduce him to Jordan. > Of course, Jordan's not quite the jackbooted dictator(*) that Linus is, > and other members of the FreeBSD effort have strong ideas of their own. Tim knows about Jordan, despite his message. We've repeatedly tried to get them interested in BSD, but there's something at ORA that resists. I suspect it's not Tim (who lives in California), but somebody on the East Coast. I've just about given up with ORA. They seem to be relinquishing their position as the favourite UNIX publisher and chasing the NT crowd. I'm surprised they even had this "summit". Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message