Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 10:04:30 -0600 From: Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org> To: Denis Polygalov <dpolyg@gmail.com>, Sergey Manucharian <sm@ara-ler.com> Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 11.3-RELEASE and 11.2-RELEASE images fail to boot on BeagleBone Black Message-ID: <900bc3467c7e28f58e8e6cf17e881bdefcb3b751.camel@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <85e35455-793a-84fe-c8cf-39b89ade7c11@gmail.com> References: <8352f841-0522-9f45-148d-d2948e97857e@gmail.com> <20190713152404.GJ1503@dendrobates> <b6876ce7-5147-5f1a-d712-3515e124cd36@gmail.com> <6b3dcec02b425a8559605b4e6c5ada19ee642728.camel@freebsd.org> <20190713194256.GK1503@dendrobates> <85e35455-793a-84fe-c8cf-39b89ade7c11@gmail.com>
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On Sun, 2019-07-14 at 10:34 +0900, Denis Polygalov wrote: > Does FreeBSD-12.0-RELEASE-arm64-aarch64-PINE64.img.xz works > out of the box or only it's bleeding edge snapshot? Right there, I think, is the root of your confusion. FreeBSD-NN- RELEASE is not bleeding edge. In fact, it's the exact opposite of that, it's a moment frozen in time that will never change again, so if it's broken, it will be broken forever. That's why I've talked several times in terms of "weekly snapshots" and "12-STABLE" which is NOT 12-RELEASE. For any given freebsd "release" it's kinda likely, sad to say, that one or several or even all the arm boards are broken. Then, the weekly snapshot that comes out for the corresponding -STABLE branch the week after the release may be fixed and work just fine. Such is life for a tier-2 platform. Two or three years ago it looked like arm was at the point where it should be a tier-1 platform, and I put a lot of effort into things like testing releases, because releases that actually work seem like an important thing for a tier-1 platform. Eventually it became clear to me that arm was never going to be a tier- 1 platform in freebsd. We had met all the requirements as near as I could tell, but no matter how many times it was brought up, it just got ignored. Politics or something, I guess, I dunno. But it was 100% demotivating, and so now I put 0% effort into things like worrying about whether something-RELEASE actually works. -- Ian
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