From nobody Mon Apr 15 20:22:13 2024 X-Original-To: arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VJJVx410jz5H1mY for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 20:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from omta001.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net (omta001.cacentral1.a.cloudfilter.net [3.97.99.32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4VJJVx18xHz4VgG for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 20:22:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from shw-obgw-4002a.ext.cloudfilter.net ([10.228.9.250]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPS id wIWhrjnzo2Ui5wSqGrFX3c; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 20:22:16 +0000 Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.66.152.170]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPSA id wSqErjN2b9Cr4wSqFrCffm; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 20:22:16 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=etl8zZpX c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=661d8c78 a=y8EK/9tc/U6QY+pUhnbtgQ==:117 a=y8EK/9tc/U6QY+pUhnbtgQ==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=raytVjVEu-sA:10 a=Rk-M77FJAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=EkcXrb_YAAAA:8 a=qKQGo5T3y57yA9P6tiwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ef1k35tKgZpiIrJ2aQ5N:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 a=LK5xJRSDVpKd5WXXoEvA:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40029248B; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 13:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by slippy.cwsent.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B9BDC6F; Mon, 15 Apr 2024 13:22:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.9.0 11/07/2018 with nmh-1.8+dev Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Lexi Winter cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: removing RIP/RIPng (routed/route6d) In-reply-to: References: Comments: In-reply-to Lexi Winter message dated "Mon, 15 Apr 2024 21:10:12 +0100." List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2024 13:22:13 -0700 Message-Id: <20240415202213.B9BDC6F@slippy.cwsent.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfJJP6z0LjrKNPSZVP/M5n+Z9HTtpZdGcCo0wtmDFAkQIAjRCxYJPO0yJW7RhYYwgXGdv1GJ9mU/07HnAMvy4YMNbctejsQ7rzAETzuvXxLTORrXb6OxX d1+Xqypt/bYe2j5ukKh/UMNuFAlaWmuzSsttBy5fry6zwqvTisv1SJo5F0DLmHQlK4RuL3h8eDnQ3Z9cEWzeP7i6YhYytpOeAvaS91pf/DIIQnDoe8Bb2LYd X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:3.96.0.0/15, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4VJJVx18xHz4VgG In message , Lexi Winter writes: > > --YwhyjZXuuh/1LhYW > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > > hello, > > currently FreeBSD ships routed(8) and route6d(8) which implement the RIP > resp. RIPng routing protocols. > > many years ago, it was fairly common for hosts to run these protocols to > get their routing table and it made sense to ship an implementation with > the operating systems. > > nowadays, these are fairly niche protocols and have been replaced in > most networks by either static routing tables (mostly just a default > route) or more modern routing protocols like IBGP/EBGP, OSPF or IS-IS. > as such, i'm not convinced there's any value continuing to ship these > with the OS. > > for people who do want to continue running RIP/RIPng, there are several > implementations available in ports, such as net/bird2 and net/quagga. > > i'd like to submit a patch to remove both of these daemons from src. if > there's some concern that people still want to use the BSD > implementation of routed/route6d, i'm also willing to submit a port such > as net/freebsd-routed containing the old code, in a similar way to how > the removal of things like window(1) and telnetd(8) were handled. > > does anyone have an opinion on this? If a port, the source repo must contain full history extracted from our src tree like I did with our telnetd and ftpd extracts. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org NTP: Web: https://nwtime.org e^(i*pi)+1=0