From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 09:18:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38463D62 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 09:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9CB2AC for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 09:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-61-84.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.61.84]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 138F925600; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 10:18:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t089Ink3001910; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 10:18:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 10:18:49 +0100 From: Polytropon To: William Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way Message-Id: <20150108101849.4143eb55.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <242E4555-34DC-4189-BEF9-1A79823B534A@firstyear.id.au> References: <63179.128.135.70.2.1420560731.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20150107153505.GB26903@aurora.oekb.co.at> <20150107164934.e0f45beb.freebsd@edvax.de> <242E4555-34DC-4189-BEF9-1A79823B534A@firstyear.id.au> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 09:18:54 -0000 On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 07:58:33 +1030, William wrote: > > > > On 8 Jan 2015, at 02:19, Polytropon wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:35:05 +0100, Ewald Jenisch wrote: > >> Thanks much for the info wrt Gnome3. Taking a look at the screenshots > >> for Gnome3 vs. mate the decision was clear for me: Mate. > >> > >> I did a "pkg install mate" today and after upgrading the rest of my > >> packages to latest versions mate is running and from what I've seen so > >> far it's exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. You were right > >> - it's a desktop environment for working not an eye candy ;-) > > > > I'd like to ask two questions: > > > > 1. Is automounting working, either with HAL/DBUS or > > with automounter from ports? > > > > 2. Is there support for german language? > > > > If both can be answered with "yes", it's probably a good > > choice to recommend the use of Mate for german users who > > want something stable and usable. While I have been "solving" > > this problem with a "normal" Gnome 2 installation in the > > past, it feels buggy and tends to dissolve over time... :-( > > Yes there is support but there is currently a bug with > changing keyboard layouts on login that as a dvorak user, > I am trying to solve. Regarding keyboard layout (a thing I hardly change during use) I prefer to either use xorg.conf to set it globally, or .xmodmap on a per-user basis (especially useful for programmable keyboards). By the way, does Mate still require HAL as a dependency? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...