Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 15:58:19 -0500 From: Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless) Message-ID: <ec2ee34d-2739-1038-f2fa-586785966428@columbus.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <CAGBxaXmwzXqZXSKX4-_qe15L3Xa8bVx%2BsFnFrxoksY8Ka3gS3w@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAGBxaXmwzXqZXSKX4-_qe15L3Xa8bVx%2BsFnFrxoksY8Ka3gS3w@mail.gmail.com>
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On 12/05/17 04:53, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> First some background (my typical use cases for ports):
>
> 0. FreeBSD lilith 11.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE #0 r321664: Fri Jul 28
> 23:35:18 EDT 2017 root@lilith:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
>
> 1. Daily routine (current):
>
> cd /usr/src
> svn update (from 11.1-RELEASE)
> [make -DESTDIR=/ world kernel&&etcupdate&&reboot as needed]
>
> cd /usr/ports
> svn update (from HEAD)
> portmaster -ad
> [reboot if any Xorg/xfce or stuff in rc.d got modified]
>
> 2. I maintain devel/aegis (which as per Bug 219284 does not compile with
> anything greater then GCC 5 [I don't have time to figure out how to patch
> it is make it work {the upstream maintainer died a few years ago}]).
>
> So what happens when I see UPDATING 20171130:
>
> 1. I decide to try poudriere since it seems to what people are raving
> about. What a <bleep>'ing confusing mess it is use!!!! After deciding it
> is over kill I go to option 2
>
> 2. I installed synth (2.00) and *ATTEMPTED* to do a upgrade-system with the
> following results (still not a successful run):
>
> a. Hard freezes the machine (not even a kernel panic) 4 times in a row
>
> b. Skips devel/aegis recompile because it can't understand the makefile
> or something (see above). *BUT* gives no clues as to why and gives me
> nothing actionable on how to repair the port
>
> 3. The suggestion of using plainly old make install on each port is
> unworkable because it is fundamentally error prone with my daily use case.
>
> TL;DR;
> Flavors <bleep>'ed up ports and there are no good ways/alternates for how
> to use the ports collection for normal everyday users/maintainers
>
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