From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 28 19:25:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DD116A41C for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:25:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: from neptune.atopia.net (neptune.atopia.net [209.128.231.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B953343D49 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:25:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from matt@atopia.net) Received: by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1B2CE4119; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:25:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neptune.atopia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E684D; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:25:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:25:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Juszczak To: Gary Mu1der In-Reply-To: <42C1A39F.9020300@infotechfl.com> Message-ID: <20050628152407.E75609@neptune.atopia.net> References: <20050628134702.V72689@neptune.atopia.net> <20050628140156.V73029@neptune.atopia.net> <42C19737.4020608@infotechfl.com> <20050628143404.R73947@neptune.atopia.net> <42C1A39F.9020300@infotechfl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD -STABLE servers repeatedly crashing X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:25:24 -0000 > Only way to find out is to try. You could build and install the non-SMP > kernel and reboot when you can, or let it boot the new kernel next time > the system(s) crash. > > A lot of the issues seem to be SMP-related. I really loaded up a GENERIC > 5.4 kernel and wasn't able to get it to panic. What do you have to lose > at this point? > > I would suggest that before committing to OpenBSD you verify that all > the hardware/software you have/use is supported under OpenBSD: > > http://www.daemonnews.org/200104/bsd_family.html > http://www.monkey.org/openbsd/archive/misc/0311/msg01803.html > > As an example: I'm fairly sure OpenBSD has recently dropped (or will drop) > support for the Adaptec aac driver as Theo is not happy with Adaptec's > response to his queries for interface specs. > > From what I've head (YMMV) OpenSBD SMP support is not very optimal, possibly > because it is likely that it was implemented extremely conservatively. > OpenBSD MySQL with two CPUs can be slower than with one: > > http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/12/27/1243207&from=rss > > Gary > > ps. it is a case of: cost, speed, reliability - choose any two. > Agreed, Theo just yelled at me cause I was having this discussion on the OpenBSD misc mailing list, which is my fault :-/ ... a lot of people were responding though and I think it just got out of hand. As much as OpenBSD seems nice, my FreeBSD experience is a lot better. I'm going to switch to Uniprocessor and see if that makes us more stable. Hopefully it will. -Matt