Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:23:27 +0000 From: Josh Paetzel <friar_josh@webwarrior.net> To: "Philip J. Koenig" <pjklist@ekahuna.com> Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Am I forced to install Xfree86? Message-ID: <20011129152327.D522@twincat.vladsempire.net> In-Reply-To: <3C05DAEE.4140.1F43C46@localhost>; from pjklist@ekahuna.com on Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 06:51:26AM -0800 References: <3C05DAEE.4140.1F43C46@localhost>
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On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 06:51:26AM -0800, Philip J. Koenig wrote: > Speaking of the devil here.. (see below) > > Can someone please tell me *why* installing the port of a simple > command-line ping utility (mtr, otherwise known as Matt's traceroute) > requires retrieving 30MB of Xfree86 files, compiling and installing, > on a machine that doesn't run X? It seems to have something to do > with "gmake", which is a dependency of mtr. No. In the case of mtr, it's the gtk dependancy that is the issue. In reality the question of a port dependancy isn't a FreeBSD issue per sae, it's an issue with the port. If you want to know "why" the port requires a certain dependancy, it's probably more productive to ask the port maintainer or the author of the program. I doubt that knowing the answer to the why question is going to change the fact that X is a required dependancy, though. A quick look at the Makefile for a port will tell you what dependancies it relies upon. Occasionaly there are ports that can be built with a WITHOUT_X=YES target as well. (cvsup-bin comes to mind) As a test, I built mtr on my X workstation and it in fact is not a command line program at all. It came up in a gtk window and was all pointy clicky. I built it on my firewall, which does not have X, and it installed as a command line program, but it did give me this message: To install with GTK support type WITH_GTK=YES. So to me it looks as if it should work just fine in either environment. It made no attempt to fetch X or gtk on my firewall. > Am I really *that* insane wanting to build BSD boxes without X, when > simple command-line utilities like that force me to install all that > stuff anyway? No. But you are insane to want to use X based programs without X. ;) Pick your poison carefully. Josh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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