From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 3 19:05:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9C547CE for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 19:05:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ultra-secure.de (mail.ultra-secure.de [88.198.178.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AB041529 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2014 19:05:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 45047 invoked by uid 89); 3 Sep 2014 19:05:54 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 45042, pid: 45044, t: 0.0714s scanners: attach: 1.4.0 clamav: 0.97.3/m:55/d:19332 Received: from unknown (HELO ?212.71.117.80?) (rainer@ultra-secure.de@212.71.117.80) by mail.ultra-secure.de with ESMTPA; 3 Sep 2014 19:05:54 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool From: Rainer Duffner In-Reply-To: <54073097.6000006@sorbs.net> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 21:05:42 +0200 Message-Id: <9C206CE8-6A3B-4B6D-82D9-62B9688DCA32@ultra-secure.de> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> <1D2B4A91-E76C-43A0-BE75-D926357EF1AF@gmail.com> <5405E4F5.4090902@sorbs.net> <5406BD65.705@digsys.bg> <5406ED34.7090301@sorbs.net> <5406F00C.6090504@digsys.bg> <358B9E99-5E02-47BA-9E30-045986150966@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <540711FF.3050409@sorbs.net> <47F4AAAA-2D88-4F03-8602-880C4B129305@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <54072011.7030800@sorbs.net> <540723EC.5000908@sorbs.net> <54073097.6000006@sorbs.net> To: Michelle Sullivan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: Tom Evans , "ports@freebsd.org" , freebsd-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 19:05:53 -0000 Am 03.09.2014 um 17:15 schrieb Michelle Sullivan : >=20 >=20 > I learned that the ports tree was being updated so much that things > would break every day in just 580 packages I have. I have to ask, why you had to build from the HEAD of the ports tree = every day? I never do this. I only take the quarterly releases (before, I would = wait for a FreeBSD Release and the accompanying freeze and use that) and = if something doesn=92t build, I try to update only that port (making a = backup) from =84current=93 ports tree. Still, if you absolutely need pkg_*, you=92ve either got to backport = every single port to use pkg_* again or upgrade the servers that use it = to pkg. I admit it=92s a big task, if you have many servers - but the effort is = well worth it IMO because upgrading packages with anything but pkg is a = nightmare. For me, the EOL of the pkg_* tools was never a concern, so I never read = the announcements that closely. Maybe someone can pull out the old mails and tell if they actually = spelled out that you can=92t even build ports anymore if you don=92t = have pkg installed. I can say that there is no chance we would be using FreeBSD anymore here = at all if it didn=92t have pkg!