From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jun 4 05:59:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316A4B6938D for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 05:59:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EE5F21272 for ; Sat, 4 Jun 2016 05:59:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b94c5-0003lT-DZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2016 07:59:13 +0200 Received: from ppp-49-237-153-68.revip6.asianet.co.th ([49.237.153.68]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2016 07:59:13 +0200 Received: from loki by ppp-49-237-153-68.revip6.asianet.co.th with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 04 Jun 2016 07:59:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Oliver Briscbois Subject: Re: rsync or git backups? Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 12:53:30 +0700 Organization: Zapto Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <20160601173909.GB97464@ayvali.org> <20160603190617.GR42477@ayvali.org> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-49-237-153-68.revip6.asianet.co.th User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.3-10/co (FreeBSD-11.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2016 05:59:24 -0000 On 2016-06-03, N.J. Thomas wrote: > There was a story on HackerNews about rsnapshot yesterday, the > discussion was informative: > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11817701 > > Several rsnapshot alternatives came up during that discussion > > Attic - https://attic-backup.org/ > Borg - https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ > Obnam - http://obnam.org/ Thanks for taking the time to post about that discussion on HackerNews. I found it very informative. I'm reading the documentation for borgbackup now. I've been using flexbackup with afio for several years, although I'm not recommending this to anyone. I chose afio because it deals somewhat gracefully with input data corruption, supports multi-volume archives, and its compressed archives are much safer than compressed tar or cpio archives. I've previously had to discard entire compressed backup archives where one single bit went bad. With afio, and possibly other compressed backup archives, only the affected file within the archive is lost. Some loss is better than all lost with storage media fails. I'll need to finish reading the borg docs to see how it handles errors on backup media before making a switch. http://www.edwinh.org/flexbackup/ http://members.chello.nl/~k.holtman/afio.html At first glance it seems that Attic/Borg/Obnam offer dedupliction which is far superior to that of my present flexbackup/afio solution. Due to my location all backups need to be made to local storage media usually USB first, then later to a physical HD which is removed and kept in a safe place. When time ($) permits I'll set up a local NAS server for backup storage and it'll definitely use ZFS at that time. Thanks again, Oliver