From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 18 11:26:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7151816A41C for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:26:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E39C43D45 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:26:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (ppp246-29.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net [203.122.246.29]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6IBQ42Z073945 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:56:10 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Vladimir Terziev Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:55:57 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <20050716194319.4375451a.vlady@sun-fish.com> <42DB59F9.80408@cronyx.ru> <20050718113333.4ab7ebb5.vlady@sun-fish.com> In-Reply-To: <20050718113333.4ab7ebb5.vlady@sun-fish.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart13680153.z8i0WlPmiy"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200507182055.57651.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: 0.05 () FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, dom@goodforbusiness.co.uk, Roman Kurakin Subject: Re: Remove Heimdal Kerberos from my FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:26:30 -0000 --nextPart13680153.z8i0WlPmiy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 18 July 2005 18:03, Vladimir Terziev wrote: > your right about useless things, but making basic software to depend on > these useless things is a very bad idea. I'm sure, telnet & ssh are the > most used applications on any UNIX system, so they must not depend on any > third party software by default. If you need kerberized ssh or telnet, th= en > ok -- relink them to use kerberos, but why possible bugs in kerberos shou= ld > affect ssh & telnet when kerberos is not mandantory for their functioning= ? I think this is slightly disingenuous - what is the actual penalty for link= ing=20 to Kerberos? It is easy to not use Kerberos if you don't want to, but it's a major pain = in=20 the ass to recompile ssh/telnet/etc when you do. =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart13680153.z8i0WlPmiy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBC25HF5ZPcIHs/zowRAssGAJ9ZelXvyyTut2eFzSNw4xPDVrfyFgCgphHq iGOMdlZPwnWDfXyoG7yHhlw= =7not -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart13680153.z8i0WlPmiy--