From owner-freebsd-chat Thu May 23 18:55:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from picard.skynet.be (picard.skynet.be [195.238.3.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BF937B403 for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 18:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.8] (ip-27.shub-internet.org [194.78.144.27] (may be forged)) by picard.skynet.be (8.11.6/8.11.6/Skynet-OUT-2.19) with ESMTP id g4O1tcT15964; Fri, 24 May 2002 03:55:38 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3CED8FF9.45DB8D2A@mindspring.com> References: <200205162121.g4GLLGQ43405@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020516220511.A9DBE380A@overcee.wemm.org> <20020517114010.A57127@regency.nsu.ru> <20020519100324.GK44562@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <20020519134348.I67779@blossom.cjclark.org> <20020520195703.A79046@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020521122955.A31528@chiark.greenend.org.uk> <20020524013232.C13780@chiark.greenend.org.uk> <3CED8FF9.45DB8D2A@mindspring.com> X-Grok: +++ath X-WebTV-Stationery: Standard; BGColor=black; TextColor=black Reply-By: Wed, 1 Jan 1984 12:34:56 +0100 X-Message-Flag: Your copy of Outlook will expire in 3 days. Please contact Microsoft about purchasing a new license. Remember: software piracy is a felony! Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 03:55:20 +0200 To: Terry Lambert , Brad Knowles From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: email vs. e-mail, was Re: cvs commit:src/sys/alpha/alpha clock.c Cc: Tony Finch , chat@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 5:57 PM -0700 2002/05/23, Terry Lambert wrote: > Contact: greg@censoft.com Will do. > He wrote some of the first email software every written, as an > undergraduate at UCSD. Greg was my boss at my first "real job" > after college. Among other things, we shipped the very first > shrink-wrapped application software for UNIX. Looking at the rfc-index, the first relevant entry I find is: 0453 Meeting announcement to discuss a network mail system. M.D. Kudlick. Feb-07-1973. (Format: TXT=4572 bytes) (Status: UNKNOWN) However, looking through this file, they never use the term "email" or "e-mail". They do use the term "network mail", however. They also use the plain "mail" term, as well as "NIC Journal mail". Looking through the RFCs, the earliest apparently relevant use I find of the term "e-mail" is in RFC 977: USENET uses a spooling area on the UNIX host to store news articles, one per file. Each article consists of a series of heading text, which contain the sender's identification and organizational affiliation, timestamps, electronic mail reply paths, subject, newsgroup (subject category), and the like. A complete news article is reproduced in its entirety below. Please consult RFC 850 for more details. Relay-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site sdcsvax.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 SMI; site unitek.uucp Path:sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!qantel!ihnp4!alberta!ubc-vision!unitek !honman From: honman@unitek.uucp (Man Wong) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: foreground -> background ? Message-ID: <167@unitek.uucp> Date: 25 Sep 85 23:51:52 GMT Date-Received: 29 Sep 85 09:54:48 GMT Reply-To: honman@unitek.UUCP (Hon-Man Wong) Distribution: net.all Organization: Unitek Technologies Corporation Lines: 12 I have a process (C program) which generates a child and waits for it to return. What I would like to do is to be able to run the child process interactively for a while before kicking itself into the background so I can return to the parent process (while the child process is RUNNING in the background). Can it be done? And if it can, how? Please reply by E-mail. Thanks in advance. Hon-Man Wong Whereas the term "email" doesn't show up until RFC 1060: Authors' Addresses: Joyce K. Reynolds University of Southern California Information Sciences Institute 4676 Admiralty Way Marina del Rey, CA 90292 Phone: (213) 822-1511 Email: JKREY@ISI.EDU Jon Postel University of Southern California Information Sciences Institute 4676 Admiralty Way Marina del Rey, CA 90292 Phone: (213) 822-1511 Email: POSTEL@ISI.EDU Continuing the back-and-forth consideration, the term "email" doesn't appear to be used anywhere in rfc-index.txt itself, except at the very top, whereas "e-mail" does occur in the titles of a number of RFCs. Counting sheer numbers, in my somewhat dated RFC archive, I find 1244 uses of the word "e-mail" in 325 unique RFCs, but 6062 uses of the word "email" in 1904 unique RFCs. However, a number of documents (296) seem to use both forms. Hmm. Based on this, I'm not quite sure what to think. -- Brad Knowles, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message