From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 30 11:10:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D13237B424 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:10:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17854; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:10:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19761; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:10:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15125.14210.469974.316853@nomad.yogotech.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:10:10 -0600 (MDT) To: Doug Barton Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well In-Reply-To: <3B152F04.87623501@DougBarton.net> References: <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <3B152F04.87623501@DougBarton.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good reason to > > me. > > > > This is really quite sad as IPFilter really is a nice piece of software. > > What's sad is that people who don't understand the issues involved are > jumping on bandwagons that they shouldn't. Darren and the FreeBSD core team > are already in the process of clarifying that FreeBSD's use of IPfilter is > "with permission," and therefore falls within the parameters of the > license. I think everyone understand that, but what if another entity (not FreeBSD) takes the FreeBSD code and modifies it for use in an embedded product. Are they allowed to modify the ipf source code for use inside of their product, like they are capable of doing with the rest of the source tree. This is the single-biggest difference between Linux and *BSD from a non-technical point of view, and the reason that I help found the FreeBSD project and didn't go they way of Linux/GNU/GPL. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message