From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 19 16:00:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB72106568E for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:00:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3792A8FC64 for ; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n7JFvLZn079638; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:57:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n7JFvLuD079637; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:57:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:57:21 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: beni Message-ID: <20090819155721.GA79601@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4A8BA737.90205@ibctech.ca> <200908191700.28341.beni@brinckman.info> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200908191700.28341.beni@brinckman.info> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Desktop Install Option X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:00:36 -0000 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 05:00:27PM +0200, beni wrote: > Op woensdag 19 augustus 2009 09:18:15 schreef Steve Bertrand: > > Sabeeh Baig wrote: > > > So, I've been wondering about something. FreeBSD is a general purpose > > > operating system, even though it has historically only heavily been used > > > on servers. Why is it that FreeBSD doesn't provide a desktop > > > installation, something similar to say Debian's option of "Standard > > > Desktop"? For those who need it, it'd be great. > > > > God willing, the majority of effort in regards to FreeBSD will be spent > > where it always has. > > > > FreeBSD is not Linux. There are those who are working toward making a > > GUI easier-to-implement, but afaik, that is not (and hope not) the > > design goal. > > > > Instead of "Desktop" features to appeal to people, what FreeBSD really > > needs is people who are willing to take the time to drop the GUI for a > > few weeks, and gain a bit of exposure and enlightenment. If it clicks, > > you're hooked. If not, then there's Linux and Windows. > > > > Steve > > That seems to be the standard answer here when (periodicaly) this questions > comes up :-) "We don't need it" (the "we" being the server-gurus). It's that > or "if you want it, do it yourself". But to me it seems that the question > returns regularly and that there must be a certain demand for it. So why don't > you let the user decide if he wants a bloated desktop or a lean mean server ? > Now I don't have that option... That is why I run pc-bsd now. They are able > to do a GUI install of a desktop on top of a solid OS, something that the > hardcore server/headless/serial/admins/whatever users here don't seem to care > about. > And yes, I know this discussion has been done already several times here :-) FreeBSD is the one that does let users have an option. One of those options is pcBSD. There are others who make up a bundle with FreeBSD as the base OS that already has your GUI and other things built for you -- a FreeBSD desktop. I hear they install real easily and work well. It is not what I need so I haven't tried them, but rather than raile at those who are building a good platform, just go and get one of those bundles. Seems you actually have already - a pretty close to FreeBSD based bundle anyway. ////jerry > -- > Beni. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"