From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jul 13 07:16:22 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA08385 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 07:16:22 -0700 Received: from kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA08379 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 07:16:21 -0700 Received: from Jupiter.mcs.net (Jupiter.mcs.net [192.160.127.89]) by kitten.mcs.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA03492; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:16:19 -0500 Received: (from karl@localhost) by Jupiter.mcs.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA01568; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:16:18 -0500 From: Karl Denninger Message-Id: <199507131416.JAA01568@Jupiter.mcs.net> Subject: Re: SCSI disk wedge To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:16:18 -0500 (CDT) Cc: karl@Mcs.Net, tom@misery.sdf.com, rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199507130829.BAA02990@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jul 13, 95 01:29:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1385 Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Karl Denninger writes: > > If FreeBSD is going to be a production platform then it is going to have to > > start behaving like one. This means that pushing things off on drive > > vendors is not acceptable. > > Please, Tom doesn't necessarily speak for the FreeBSD Project! We > agree that a problem is a problem, and finger pointing avails us nothing. > > > If you have a problem with a device, you *report it*. Silent death is never > > acceptable. The kernel is running in this case, but the system is hung > > waiting on I/O completion. > > This is one area in which the SCSI code needs significant improvement; > no argument at all about that and we've known it for some time. > Finding people willing to go in there with a flashlight hunting for > unhandled error conditions and such is the more difficult problem. > > Jordan I understand this.... if I had a bus probe and an SCSI bus monitor I'd be more than willing to do this kind of thing. Unfortunately, I have neither. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity Modem: [+1 312 248-0900] | (shell, PPP, SLIP, leased) in Chicagoland Voice: [+1 312 248-8649] | 7 Chicagoland POPs, ISDN, 28.8, much more Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net ISDN - Get it here TODAY! | Home of Chicago's only FULL AP Clarinet feed!