From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Mar 5 18: 6:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from midway.uchicago.edu (midway.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1FC37B405 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 18:06:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (adsl-65-42-131-128.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net [65.42.131.128]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g2626Ni00266; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 20:06:23 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200203060206.g2626Ni00266@midway.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: David Syphers Reply-To: charon@seektruth.org To: Terry Lambert Subject: Trout (was: C vs C++) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 20:06:23 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020305164151.T5854-100000@alpha.yumyumyum.org> <3C856DB5.E5F14F62@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <3C856DB5.E5F14F62@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday 05 March 2002 07:15 pm, Terry Lambert wrote: > Kenneth Culver wrote: > > I'm not saying it can't be done, but generally speaking based on the Open > > source and commercial products I've seen, the ones that are written in > > C++ suffer from more bloat and run slower. > > "A trout is a fish." > "Therefore all fish are trout." > > I think you just failed set theory... ;^). I couldn't pass this up... The original comment has nothing to do with set theory per se; it has to do with the validity of extrapolation of data. The reason I couldn't pass this up is because I've just been reading Newton's Principia, in which he addresses this very point (in his third rule of reasoning in philosophy). He would say that if all observed C++ programs are slower and have more bloat, then we should assume all possible C++ programs are slower and have more bloat. Not a question of mathematics. Whether or not the premise is true is an entirely different question, and one which I'll leave to the professional coders :) -David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message