From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 15 21:41:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA21576 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 21:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sabre.goldsword.com (sabre.goldsword.com [199.170.202.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA21558 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 21:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jfarmer@localhost) by sabre.goldsword.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA15887; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 00:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 00:26:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "John T. Farmer" Message-Id: <199709160426.AAA15887@sabre.goldsword.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, jsuter@uranus.intrastar.net Subject: Re: Digital Modem choices Cc: jfarmer@goldsword.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:53:46 -0500 "Jacob Suter" said: [I said...] >> vendor (Phylon Tech. at http://www.phylon.com/) looking for help in >> writing & testing FreeBSD drivers for their cards. Currently they have >> W*nNT support. From the looks of it, it (as well as other vendors cards) > >> use the MVIP bus (as used in voice-mail pc's, Computer based Telephony >> apps, etc.) to tie things together. But it looks like it's is/will be >> possible to buy/build your own "ascend" replacement soon using FreeBSD... > >But the issue is, would you want your FreeBSD box to catch on fire like >Ascends like to do? > >I've heard stories of several charred Ascend boxes... And if you can't >afford a PM3, you just got no excuse to be an ISP (IMHO). Aw SH*T! Are we going to to get into the _SAME_@#$%_ argument about this that breaks out _very_ time someone asks about sync cards & Freebsd-based routing boxes? He asked a reasonable question. I gave him what information I had. Enough said. Charred Ascend boxes? stories, yes, I'll believe _stories_. Do some of the loaded out Max boxes run hot? Yes. Charred? Burned up? Not as long as you obey the factory recommendations as to air flow & other environmental conditions. No excuse to be an ISP if you can't afford a PM3?!?! I'm _very_ glad you put the IMHO on that... To put it in simple terms, being a successful ISP does not _require_ you to use PM3s or Ascends. Different folks want/like different solutions. I'm not use an ISP. I design networks & systems to _solve_ the client's problem. 20 years of doing this has taught me one thing, "There ain't no one answer for every situation." John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John T. Farmer Proprietor, GoldSword Systems jfarmer@goldsword.com Public Internet Access in East Tennessee dial-in (423)470-9953 for info, e-mail to info@goldsword.com Network Design, Internet Services & Servers, Consulting