From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Tue Oct 10 21:35:00 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F3EE3DEF7 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom.b.rushworth@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf0-x22c.google.com (mail-pf0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 140866E28A for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom.b.rushworth@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id e64so307014pfk.9 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 14:35:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=reply-to:subject:references:to:from:cc:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iqHodrBoT8hFiTbv1QgPiX+oadOVbmJsd+VfF1er7w8=; b=iisCPnauaFPW4keB45xanBPy3G42z8RxVJcFc/6Br5goKfVu4/nOQAAmqQPZSIfyci 9ro0JukLWuW639IpYYEx4O8GNVuj0mpo0xaCA1kjAjtqC0/eRDB1xPg2GxqmBofqj4MR OudHahhC+Er3ZlMJ7sIdAoXkuoeNrUxYRBuMq72FN/QWQcCypG0sRX0rsJWgMJdhtNl5 TLcXP2qWdBmDnAerDr8MMllbToNGsD7v9okn0DiqywBM/RrCD/A0uuUgEFosGXqddKOM xeQ4HAWiDlfpMa3mxpaHAoq9vnOnsQ1yvCOc6zDF2tlxtMhTsikdGk7S+ChQka72mBmA r2tw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:reply-to:subject:references:to:from:cc :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iqHodrBoT8hFiTbv1QgPiX+oadOVbmJsd+VfF1er7w8=; b=ezZUe0L5PF4IRMB+3jZSnCfmjZiva3DosyPeoNmVvlZkMLHslEN4Z8y3JgoSWb2nYf amKcDcyToB7FHVgN6AK3H42ZYB5kjAl3qL2UDJ9gLxI0O4h1F+sK0U/SH+tsLFPEEp+S cpjHdhSHdhAiUObLnOAmU59FTwB8CFhHUGnFF+8pwlPumE5WQXxM01TSSrEGfUBH9HyW j9Dsn2XN/5ELptkotDYIUGtNpg7hhtyRSKrnI2nHx5tf4wFYl2pLgJNjIvNQCIAA8HXB N2YFpDWnFiSdFW6RsFXMMV0bLWVQD/5xP/rQ3TAO15PK/4j9DTT97zU0k4GFvlH9YO9Y xv9g== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaXtT1nsw9G5AiDwDCusKJKswYvMbmhtrGrj3GkS41futCBiKzKM WOLhmjQCNDh6LKF4+Bjx4IZgUg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QCy8xpHtMcx1J8eFUTjVV9xq1hCjIAHZ40bCLxNmYtqPnkeZNc7Z2BU7KD1vNK1ol3jFOPI8Q== X-Received: by 10.84.129.106 with SMTP id 97mr13114729plb.268.1507671299471; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 14:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kelvin.mannynkapy.net ([207.102.139.9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c22sm5842658pfe.177.2017.10.10.14.34.58 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Oct 2017 14:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: tbr@acm.org Subject: Re: intro References: <696fb5ea-e1bf-d7c2-004a-eb4eb2af43d7@nomadlogic.org> To: Pete Wright From: Tom Rushworth Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 14:34:58 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <696fb5ea-e1bf-d7c2-004a-eb4eb2af43d7@nomadlogic.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:35:00 -0000 Hi Pete, On 10/10/2017 13:51, Pete Wright wrote: > > [snip] > > I'd suggest taking a look at TrueOS to see if the updated i915 support > in there offers you a better X experience. > > https://www.trueos.org/ > > TrueOS is FreeBSD with some nice prebuilt additions for desktops and > laptops. They even have a live image that should allow you to verify X > is working as expected before you install it. It sounds like the live image is worth trying, I'll do so shortly. > > If you are wanting to run vanilla FreeBSD and don't mind periodic > instability you can also run 12-CURRENT and install the "drm-next-kmod" > pkg. Although depending on how much time you want to put into hacking > on things TrueOS may be an easier entry point for you. I don't mind CURRENT as long as the parts I'm using work :). Doug Kirk also pointed me at the graphics/drm-next-kmod port, which I'd guess needs something close to CURRENT as well. I'll give both suggestions a try over the weekend and report back. Thanks everyone! > > HTH! > -pete > Regards, -- Tom Rushworth