From owner-freebsd-fs Mon Mar 24 4: 6:13 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD10037B401; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 04:06:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from comp.chem.msu.su (comp-ext.chem.msu.su [158.250.32.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81EEA43F85; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 04:06:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yar@comp.chem.msu.su) Received: from comp.chem.msu.su (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by comp.chem.msu.su (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h2OC55gO058309; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:05:25 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yar@comp.chem.msu.su) Received: (from yar@localhost) by comp.chem.msu.su (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id h2OC54dv058298; Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:05:04 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yar) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:05:04 +0300 From: Yar Tikhiy To: Christoph Sold Cc: Robert Watson , ppc@freebsd.org, fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HFS/HFS Plus driver and tools for 5.x are available Message-ID: <20030324120504.GC56331@comp.chem.msu.su> References: <3E7ECE1C.2000605@cheasy.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E7ECE1C.2000605@cheasy.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-32.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 10:21:32AM +0100, Christoph Sold wrote: > Robert Watson wrote: > >On Sat, 22 Mar 2003, Yar Tikhiy wrote: > > > > > >>I'm glad to offer to the community an HFS and HFS Plus filesystem module > >>and tools, ported from Darwin to FreeBSD 5. Of course, it's a rather > >>early version that deserves thorough testing. > >> > >>Please see http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/hfs/ for details. > >> > >>I'm looking forward for your feedback. > > > > > >Very, very cool. I hope to try this sometime in the next couple of days. > >So correct me if I'm wrong, but assuming journalling is working properly > >in your port, this is the first complete open source journalled file > >system available for FreeBSD. :-) > > Neither HFS nor HFS+ are journaled file systems. Have a look at > http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/mac/Files/Files-99.html > or > http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn1150.html > to read through the specs. (URLs shamelessly grabbed from the page > mentioned above :*) Christoph and Robert, I'm sorry to have to disappoint both of you ;-( Christoph: Apple has indeed introduced an extention to HFS Plus to make a journaled FS out of the latter. Robert: Unfortunately, the journaling feature seems tangled with the Darwin-specific unified buffer cache, and I haven't attepted to untangle it yet. However, that is on my to-do list. -- Yar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message