From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 26 01:36:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84CCA37B401 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 01:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from c17443.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au (c17443.thorn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [210.49.151.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E9C43F85 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 01:36:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tonymaher@optushome.com.au) Received: from dt.home (localhost [127.0.0.1])h4Q8aho2021522; Mon, 26 May 2003 18:36:43 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from tonym@dt.home) Received: (from tonym@localhost) by dt.home (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4Q8abgZ021438; Mon, 26 May 2003 18:36:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from tonym) Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 18:36:37 +1000 (EST) From: Tony Maher Message-Id: <200305260836.h4Q8abgZ021438@dt.home> To: A.J.Caines@halplant.com In-Reply-To: <20030526055024.GN383@hal9000.halplant.com> cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Change request for mount_null manpage X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 08:36:41 -0000 Hello Andrew, > Andrew J Caines wrote: >> I'm using mount_null now for some months - and i never had a problem >> with this. > Are you using it for rw mounts and if so, then what kind or write volume > and sizes do you handle? > > Usually when this comes up, folks are using null ro mounts and the rare > (and sometime unintentional) rw mounts do little or no writing. If anyone > is doing significant volume or size writes, then I've not heared mention > of it. I also have been using nullfs (since Jun 30 2001) on a number of systems (from 4.3-> 4.8) including my main workstation and multiuser servers. The mounts are rw. FreeBSD dt.home 4.8-STABLE FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE #2: Wed Apr 16 13:00:01 EST 2003 /space/home/staff 4817509 2995755 1436354 68% /home/staff /space/db/mysql 4817509 2995755 1436354 68% /db/mysql /space/db/pgsql 4817509 2995755 1436354 68% /db/pgsql /space/usr/cvs 4817509 2995755 1436354 68% /usr/cvs /space/usr/doc 4817509 2995755 1436354 68% /usr/doc /space/usr/ports 4817509 2995755 1436354 68% /usr/ports /space/usr/src 4817509 2995755 1436354 68% /usr/src /var/obj 1016303 747549 187450 80% /usr/obj /space/usr/local/office52 4817509 2995755 1436354 68% /usr/local/office52 I have built world many times and compiled ports without problem. I have an outstanding PR regarding nullfs http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/28566 I have now removed /usr/hack nullfs mount and retested startx. It all works fine now and I think this PR can now be closed (I'll submit PR followup after some more testing). Also at the time of this PR I stopped using nullfs mounts for /home because linux binaries would not work (no PR for this). I have also retested this and everything works fine. I think the warning in mount_null man page could be toned down. As noted in the '5.1-RELEASE TODO' emails nullfs is somewhat broken in -current. cheers -- tonym