From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 3 21:29:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A853316A4CE for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2005 21:29:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (f170.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.170]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2F743D54 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2005 21:29:56 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j23LToZY011400; Thu, 3 Mar 2005 22:29:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: "ALeine" From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 02 Mar 2005 14:51:32 PST." <200503022251.j22MpWSg085574@marlena.vvi.at> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 22:29:50 +0100 Message-ID: <11399.1109885390@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk cc: tech-security@NetBSD.org cc: elric@imrryr.org cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: ticso@cicely.de Subject: Re: FUD about CGD and GBDE X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 21:29:57 -0000 In message <200503022251.j22MpWSg085574@marlena.vvi.at>, "ALeine" writes: >phk@phk.freebsd.dk wrote: > >> I can not encourage you enough to try it. >> >> Don't let peole like Thor scare you away, progress happens when >> people try to follow their ideas, even if told that they are fools by >> people who (think they) know better. > >Thor? Who is Thor? :-> Seriously, this discussion is only making me >more eager to implement my ideas, I know exactly what I want to >implement, it just might take me more time than you seasoned kernel >programmers who live the code. :-) Start out doing it in userland, it's much easier to work with. In FreeBSD we have something called "geom-gate" which allows you to implement disks in userland. I'm sure something similar exists or can be trivially created in your favourite OS. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.