From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 1 21:27:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233BC16A44A; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:27:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from saturnero@freesbie.org) Received: from jail1-fbsd4.consiagnet.it (jail1-fbsd4.consiagnet.it [83.149.128.151]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745B943D48; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:27:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from saturnero@freesbie.org) Received: from jail1-fbsd4.consiagnet.it (jail1-fbsd4.consiagnet.it [83.149.128.151]) by jail1-fbsd4.consiagnet.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D909579E; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 22:35:23 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on cvs.freesbie.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.1.0 Received: from [192.168.99.16] (host14-150.pool875.interbusiness.it [87.5.150.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jail1-fbsd4.consiagnet.it (Postfix) with ESMTP; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 22:35:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43E127A5.9060503@freesbie.org> Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:27:01 +0100 From: Dario Freni User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.5 (Macintosh/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Poul-Henning Kamp References: <3281.1138742578@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <3281.1138742578@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 OpenPGP: url=http://www.saturnero.net/saturnero.asc Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF60174883D20568F7055FDA3" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: rizzo@icir.org, rwatson@freebsd.org, small@freebsd.org, "M. Warner Losh" , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] what do we do with picobsd ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 21:27:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF60174883D20568F7055FDA3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Poul-Henning Kamp ha scritto: > In message <20060131.131654.134137067.imp@bsdimp.com>, "M. Warner Losh"= writes: >> In message: <43DFC2D5.7040706@errno.com> >> Sam Leffler writes: >=20 >> Since I've started working on the bring up on an ARM based board, I've= >> been wanting something that is easy to work with and that worked. I >> think it would help us a lot in the embedded space if we had something= >> integrated into the base OS to do this stuff. >=20 > I agree. I think we need to be much more inclusive in our concept of > a 'release' than we are now. >=20 > As I see it, PicoBSD with its "additive" approach would cover the > low-capacity (<32 MB ?) range, NanoBSD with its "subtractive" approach > takes over from there, FreeSBIE covers the "don't touch my disk" > range and finally the full blown release as we know it. >=20 Actually, FreeSBIE 2 toolkit covers both approaches. It is successfully used in embedded enviroments. pfSense (www.pfsense.com) use it either for creating an install livecd as well as embedded images for soekris-like machines. It can perfectly act as NanoBSD (the only difference is the partitioning scheme which is trivial to reproduce by customizing FreeSBIE's image script). Nobody of you mind importing the toolkit in the source tree? :) --=20 Dario Freni (saturnero@freesbie.org) FreeSBIE developer (http://www.freesbie.org) GPG Public key at http://www.saturnero.net/saturnero.asc --------------enigF60174883D20568F7055FDA3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFD4Serymi72IiShysRAqK2AJ9fiNtXlzHcpiDIBrGGT3QH+BCNxQCaAqvd bm3Meu90tj3qgOVPKS59mSI= =T553 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF60174883D20568F7055FDA3--