From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri May 17 03:51:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA06785 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 17 May 1996 03:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itesec.hsc.fr (root@itesec.hsc.fr [192.70.106.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA06779 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 03:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tetard.hsc.fr (tetard.hsc.fr [192.70.106.43]) by itesec.hsc.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3/itesec-1.8) with ESMTP id MAA06705; Fri, 17 May 1996 12:51:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from regnauld@localhost) by tetard.hsc.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3/tetard-uucp-2.8) id MAA06281; Fri, 17 May 1996 12:51:27 +0200 (MET DST) From: Philippe Regnauld Message-Id: <199605171051.MAA06281@tetard.hsc.fr> Subject: Re: Re(2): Re(2): Standard Shipping Containers - A Proposal for Distributing FreeBSD To: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 12:51:27 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org (hackers) In-Reply-To: from Richard Wackerbarth at "May 17, 96 00:06:16 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Richard Wackerbarth écrit / writes: > Nate responds: [...] > > > Since those who have the direct access are not really inhibited by this > proposal, I suggest that you reconsider it in view of the other 99.99% of the > folks for whom my assumptions apply. [...] > I'll take another shot at that comment. It is no wonder the Linux is more > popular. The reason Linux is more popular is that it was very tied to the Minix community early in its life. (Many people owning 386s then were looking for a system with real memory protection). Also, it was the first freely available Unix, and still benefits from the early start. > I'm glad that Jordan doesn't adopt your "keep it hard to do" > attitude. There are thousands who manage to get the sources IN SPITE OF THE > DIFFICULTIES in their way. Errm, so far I've only seen a majority of people satisifed with the installation procedure (like those "great work guys" messages we see popping up every once in a while) AND the source distribution system ("Wow, it's much easier to keep up with FBSD, 'cause at least there's only one source). IMHO, Linux is STILL a pain in the ass, and 3/4 Linux owners around me are "waiting for that new Debian release so I can trash my xxxx". Not to mention keeping the kernel in sync with the rest of the system when Torvalds goes epileptic. > Whetheror not they SHOULD be getting them is > another question. But they do. And in doing so, they consume a very large > amount of "our" computer resources. If we can make it possible for them to do > things more efficiently, everyone will benefit. If It Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It. > The things that I suggested are really only minor changes to the operating > procedure. But those changes and have a major impact on the ease of use of the > final product. What do people think ? So far I've seen one complaint about ftp.ee.freebsd.org. -- Phil -- +-------------------+---------------------------------------+-----------------+ | Philippe Regnauld |_______Herve Schauer Consultants_______| regnauld@hsc.fr | +-------------------+FreeBSD - Turning PCs into Workstations+-----------------+