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Fri, 24 Jan 2020 08:33:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202001180116.00I1G705020955@mail.karels.net> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 09:33:42 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r356758 - in head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall: . scripts To: Ed Maste Cc: Ben Woods , Conrad Meyer , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , Mike Karels , Philip Paeps X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4844Tb4nwQz4F4V X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=Njqbecgb; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wlosh@bsdimp.com has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::829) smtp.mailfrom=wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.64 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arch@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[9.2.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-2.64)[ip: (-9.29), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.06), asn: 15169(-1.80), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 16:33:56 -0000 On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 7:38 AM Ed Maste wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 19:07, Ben Woods wrote: > > > > 4GB was recommended by: imp, emaste, philip, eugen, dteske > > 8GB was recommended by: mike > > 16GB was recommended by: cem > > My earlier comment is more an agreement with defaulting to UFS/ZFS > based on RAM and not that I gave careful consideration to the amount. > I agree with some of the later comments in the thread, and would at > least go with >4GB for ZFS by default, perhaps >=8GB. > I'm happy for whatever comments we have here in the range. Maybe "ZFS requires at least 8GB of ram to be viable by default. Careful tuning can dramatically lower the amount of RAM needed." or something similar. Warner