From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu Jan 3 10:22:55 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBA91423B22 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 10:22:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-f43.google.com (mail-ot1-f43.google.com [209.85.210.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84C7A6E590 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2019 10:22:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ot1-f43.google.com with SMTP id f18so28962014otl.11 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 02:22:54 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=GlY5mgd0qags6Z4+V4T3oHpeX59Q5nVGh6Gl0cr1NQA=; b=tX7/ih9IPyLKpM4uC232G3zs1ixzhd2HIWmwvt9lGtLsDZgmFZZXx6vqbxC10rSutP PM2QUyZBt3etTyube3L7XxsTN/ZqqNDSEde33Sp0hZiotkhf3uKsuiomIo/pwCbtvEmj XDIC2wmZ+gkJtheMZMyAG67xlPa1hVF6iC/L/NdET1hAeiR9uO3bIzMujZk/yukneHpi raS0sswXGBDrmLM8/vXnCzfGgXroxHF5gc871AVmjvt35jbmmN0CWQ7/uIKE+yL1emIi ORZrvOhQg8noZnX5N4vYuihgW9lpHi85JvxSFB+VO9vJ9+9TtDWzrgDDa9zJ6SzM8KAT NFPA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukfIeiHbESKlOFY1ubAznR+mpwGk6LrxBF0NjUnG1HlMZoqXYpOG 3VvgXCDwaL7QNtBqgA4rPPrp8JB7VnyTHak4nM4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN7TKblm4b61MN1muQTkbAZ8l6RBXD/Tl42oU1Y0qcGsOtsj0+Npo4tY99hU1q7ZMs6pO5raaNXGKR4eSrZr9P8= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6f95:: with SMTP id h21mr33444001otq.66.1546510968234; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 02:22:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201901021829.x02IT4Kc064169@slippy.cwsent.com> In-Reply-To: From: Igor Mozolevsky Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 10:22:10 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Speculative: Rust for base system components To: Wojciech Puchar Cc: Hackers freeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 84C7A6E590 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mozolevsky@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mozolevsky@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.40)[-0.400,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk,mozolevsky@gmail.com]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk,mozolevsky@gmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.985,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hybrid-lab.co.uk]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[43.210.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(-1.10)[ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.79), asn: 15169(-1.64), country: US(-0.08)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2019 10:22:55 -0000 On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 10:18, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > necessary bits with one pkg install command. > > > > In summary we should pair down base and use ports to our advantage. > > Unless the proposal is to add some feature written in rust that cannot > > live in ports or if the proposal is to rewrite FreeBSD into rust (which > > I vehemently disagree with), > > Why do you disagree?! Let others do it, or even reimplement it in java or > visual basic. > > But as a separate project. ... and call it RustyBSD or CRustyBSD (because there will still be C) :-)) -- Igor M.