From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Tue Jul 3 16:05:54 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBA5102D19F for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:05:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A58893E3 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:05:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id F02FB102D19C; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:05:53 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC068102D19A for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:05:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.baldwin.cx (bigwig.baldwin.cx [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:75::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E95E893E0 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:05:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from John-Baldwins-MacBook-Pro-2.local (ralph.baldwin.cx [66.234.199.215]) by mail.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 770E410A87D; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 12:05:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: xstr, mkstr To: Warner Losh , Eitan Adler References: <201807031445.w63EjJmF038596@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , "Rodney W. Grimes" From: John Baldwin Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 09:05:51 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mail.baldwin.cx); Tue, 03 Jul 2018 12:05:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at mail.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 16:05:54 -0000 On 7/3/18 8:26 AM, Warner Losh wrote: >> "As far as I can tell" needs to be a bit stronger, >> >> Agreed. But before doing work we should first make sure that the work >> will be productive. >> > > Xstr and most are best thought of as a final pass of the old pcc compiler. > This functionality moved into gcc before the egcs split back in the 90s. > The compiler has done this work for two decades now. Nobody uses it, or > needs it today. > > Unlike tip or cu, nobody at all uses these. Agreed, these tools are quite obscure and I don't think _FreeBSD_ has ever used them. -- John Baldwin