From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 3 19:33:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B1B106566C for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:33:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root.vagner@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F978FC13 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so8169146bwz.3 for ; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:33:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:resent-from :resent-date:resent-message-id:resent-to:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=BKVRJ1iCW9evviQAUtxWUyo58wcMfa8N1N0EzDDsw8I=; b=ZatVs8bVA15KQ68jd5Ij4HWX8svviCWjI5VurNVIntjuD5JsmWdxJ4ruPXLPBlJsUR im5vjqWsWtkBjsjbmh+1mxAvEXTzDrsZKv5sG6kddONlVpX8CnctELRse+LaCfjF793i iVJpbbLE08r0H/vK/HvHQ6bc3qxvf6hg7SoiY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=resent-from:resent-date:resent-message-id:resent-to:date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=fObtwVKA/i8skDPHnO778zNzCRPtZXq6vfsQCm2gD9yK6G2l9VyI0DI/oVgsmLwg67 gpkjAWfAqg+32a1hFrfgkxPUr6ifVRvSMjt7ZJ1S+Vja4lqUgdY/z3JL0dtdLTzpR0M9 rM+VkbUUyr08Ew/oM9MuJsfSiAvjTUNP4RnSA= Received: by 10.204.154.211 with SMTP id p19mr436670bkw.3.1257276811537; Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:33:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from root.vagner@gmail.com ([77.66.145.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm1023500fks.34.2009.11.03.11.33.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:33:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by root.vagner@gmail.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:33:25 +0300 Resent-From: Vagner Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:33:25 +0300 Resent-Message-ID: <20091103193325.GB1035@vagner.bsd.loc> Resent-To: Freebsd chat Mail List Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:29:47 +0300 From: Vagner To: KAYVEN RIESE Message-ID: <20091103192806.GA1035@vagner.bsd.loc> References: <20091031061956.GA4561@vagner.bsd.loc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Russian's laws X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:33:35 -0000 On 16:24 Sun 01 Nov , KAYVEN RIESE wrote: > On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, Rick N wrote: > > > > > We're all certifiable with the *BSD's, no pun intended. :) > > I'm not sure if this helps but there is accepted "certs" for the BSD's. > > > > http://www.bsdcertification.org/ -and it's fairly cheap. > > > > My understanding of what he said was that the Russian government needed to > certify the operating system and then didn't? Therefore the BSD > certification is irrelevant? > > > > as far as your "...How do you fight against corruption & bureaucraty in the government itself?..." > > > > well, UNFORTUNATELY, every country in the world HAS THAT problem. > > > > > > > > GL > > > > > > > > Rick. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > >> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:19:56 +0300 > >> From: root.vagner@gmail.com > >> To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > >> Subject: FreeBSD vs Russian's laws > >> > >> Good day! I wanted to share with you the situation in Russia and hear > >> advice. In Russia introduced a law "On personal data" and the > >> corresponding standarts. In accordance with these standarts process > >> personal data (ie 80% of all data in the enterprise) can only by > >> certified operating systems and software. > >> Certified happening in the Federal Security Service in Russia (FSB in USA). But FreeBSD doesn't certify anyone. > >> That is, in Russia are trying to ban the use os Freebsd and similar. > >> For the use of face criminal liability. What do i do not kwow, but > >> refuse to use FreeBSD, i don't intend to. Thks > >> > >> -- > >> Respectfully, > >> Stanislav Putrya > >> System administrator > >> "RMK Kovsh" Ltd. > >> IM: 328585847 > >> mob. phone: +79525600664 > >> email: root.vagner@gmail.com > >> email: vagner_rider@bk.ru > >> > >> ---------------------------------------- > >> ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign > >> X - against HTML, vCards and > >> / \ - proprietary attachments in e-mail > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > CDN College or University student? 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Buy it now! > > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691636_______________________________________________ > > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > *----------------------------------------------------------* > Kayven Riese, BSCS, MS (Physiology and Biophysics) > (415) 902 5513 cellular > http://kayve.net > Webmaster http://ChessYoga.org > *----------------------------------------------------------* > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Keyven, russia's government as far as i understood the meaning of the law and how it understood the lawyers of my environment requires certification for all OS used for processing personal data. From Linux on a date, certified by my data only commercial building & ALT Linux. The main question is that if the courts begin FBSD all still will have to address the issue of certification at the level of the country. Redarding the data is in municipal institutions - advence i received from the branch suggests that the processing of personal data applies to commercial entities, as well as the personnel department is making the personal data of employees as well as accounting. It was very interesting to hear the admins YANDEX & RAMBLER, as representatives of the russia organizations most ambitiously using FBSD in their activities... -- Respectfully, Stanislav Putrya System administrator "RMK Kovsh" Ltd. IM: 328585847 mob. phone: +79525600664 email: root.vagner@gmail.com email: vagner_rider@bk.ru ---------------------------------------- ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign X - against HTML, vCards and / \ - proprietary attachments in e-mail