From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 2 13:36:43 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDFC437B401; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:36:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net (stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.188]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D3543FBD; Wed, 2 Apr 2003 13:36:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0303.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.199.48] helo=mindspring.com) by stork.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 190puR-000463-00; Wed, 02 Apr 2003 13:36:40 -0800 Message-ID: <3E8B579B.AB82C225@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 13:35:23 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jens Rehsack References: <3E8B093D.4010500@liwing.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a489af54f683575533a8aae41515b63948548b785378294e88350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: John Baldwin Subject: Re: Removing Sendmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: config@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 21:36:44 -0000 Jens Rehsack wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: > > First, core@ is not the appropriate body for that type of request. > > Both current@ and arch@ are much better targets. Second, is > > NO_SENDMAIL + the postfix port inadequate? > > The problem I see with that is, that even a minimalistic base install > installs things like sendmail, ppp, atm-stuff, g77 and so on. > > I really think splitting the base in some sub-parts would it make much > easier to do NO_SENDMAIL on my own. So I had to remove each not required > file separately. That's no good solution. So we are back to: o breaking the base system into packages, o either pre-installed with package alternatives to allow deinstall and reinstall, OR o we are into seperately packaging all mail servers, picking the current one as default, and hacking the heck out of sysinstall to make sure there's a seperate choice item to get one installed ...all so that programs that require the ability to send local mail, many of them base systems components, can function. That's what I said in the first place. So we are agreed. The correct mailing lists for this discussion are config@freebsd.org and install@freebsd.org. I've set followups to config@freebsd.org to indicate my own bias and the total lack of space for more sysinstall code on the install floppy... -- Terry