From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 7 11:38:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F263B16A455 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 11:37:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave.fazio@annulet.com) Received: from mail-01.annulet.com (laco-colo-66-228-134-22.masterlink.net [66.228.134.22]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B6443D48 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 11:37:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dave.fazio@annulet.com) Received: from [10.1.10.150] by mail-01.annulet.com [10.2.10.200] with SmartMax MailMax for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 06:37:43 -0500 X-SmartMax-AuthUser: Received: from [10.1.1.10] (station-01 [10.1.1.10]) by corp-01.annulet.corp (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j97BbbYX001421; Fri, 7 Oct 2005 06:37:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dave.fazio@annulet.com) Message-ID: <43465E07.1000709@annulet.com> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 06:37:43 -0500 From: Dave Fazio User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Macintosh/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marian Hettwer References: <43455D3E.5040007@mbnet.fi> <1128619628.83589.7.camel@station-20> <434627FF.2000002@kernel32.de> In-Reply-To: <434627FF.2000002@kernel32.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new FreeBSD-webpage X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:38:00 -0000 Totally agree and understand your point -- a graphical install option would mainly appeal to desktop users. But let's be honest; considering the competition install base of Red Hat, Mac OS X, SUN, and (ech!) Windows, the day of GUI deskop'd servers is here now; Purests hate it sure, but it's a fact, and shouldn't be discounted altogether as an option for modern day server configurations. There's no point to digress more on this subject now, but FreeBSD is in my opinion the best of *all* general purpose OSs -- But to properly manage a FreeBSD (ports/packages,source builds, etc), the devil is definitely in the details. Apple has smoothed our these details in short order -- why can't we? Regards, -Dave Marian Hettwer wrote: > Hej Dave, > > Dave Fazio wrote: > >> In my opinion, this page will help popularize FreeBSD more than the >> older (adding graphical installer would help too -- hint hint). >> > a graphical installer may help desktop users, but is totally unusable > for server installations where you either want to install > automatically (boot via pxe, mount some stuff via NFS, install the > system, reboot and off you go) or where you just have serial access. > > Anyway, the topic of graphical installer was discussed several times > already :) > > best regards, > Marian > > PS.: I do like the layout of the new website :)