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Date:      Tue, 29 Apr 1997 08:05:25 -0500 (EST)
From:      John Fieber <jfieber@indiana.edu>
To:        Stefan Bethke <stefan@promo.de>
Cc:        www@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Select a server near you menu
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.970429075135.11482A-100000@fallout.campusview.indiana.edu>
In-Reply-To: <l03010d00af8b5f08429e@[194.45.188.81]>

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On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Stefan Bethke wrote:

> At 22:07 Uhr +0200 28.04.1997, John Fieber wrote:
> >* Maybe I'm just out of touch with non-standard HTML, but what is
> >  the origin of <SPACER>?

> Sorry, this is a left-over. <IMG src="emtpy.gif" ...> is more portable;
> <SPACER> is a Netscapism.

Go for portability.

> >* <NOBR> seems to be what &nbsp is supposed to be.  Does &nbsp
> >  not work?
> <NOBR>Foo bar</NOBR> makes the words in between not break. Yes, one can use
> Foo&nbsp;bar also.

&nbsp is a standard ISO 8859-1 character.  NOBR is a Netscapism.
I strongly prefer the former it works.

> >* I think the "select your language" option may have some
> >  usability problems in that it implies that language
> >  selection and mirror selection are independent when,
> >  in fact, they are not.  Also, having English missing is a
> >  problem!
> Well, I'm not too concerned where the server lives, as long as it gives me
> information in a language I can understand. 

I'm not concerned with where the server lives, but I am concerned
that the two controls (mirror and language) interact and the
interface obscures that interaction.  The only way the controls
can be truly independent is for each mirror to carry all
languages.

As long as there is an interaction, I'd rather keep it explicit
as it is with the current mirror list--don't replace a single
control with an obvious and predictable behavior with two
controls whose actual behavior is not as obvious.  Of course,
this is just my speculation based on past experience with
usability testing; I could be wrong on this one.  :)

> And, why not have a part of the page that tells you where you are?
> ("Welcome to the main FreeBSD Web server." or "Willkommen auf dem deutschen
> FreeBSD-Webserver.")

Definately.

> I think we should provide for localization in the build process whereever
> it makes sense.

Paul Richards is working on re-engineering the build process that
should have more "knobs" for local variation.

> >See also http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber/bars.html
> I would like to, but as of now there is no such doc...

Oops.  Try bars.gif.

-john




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