From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat May 27 12:16:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-193-112-57.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.112.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC7A37B537 for ; Sat, 27 May 2000 12:16:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00691; Sat, 27 May 2000 12:18:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005271918.MAA00691@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Dennis Cc: John Hay , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.0 - Isa devices not being probed In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 27 May 2000 15:09:40 EDT." <200005271908.PAA20241@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 12:18:44 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > At 09:54 AM 5/27/00 +0200, John Hay wrote: > >> In message <200005261723.NAA16495@etinc.com> Dennis writes: > >> : My 4.0 system doesnt probe ISA devices on my system. > >> : > >> : Whats the trick? Is there a config requirement with old-style drivers? > >> > >> They probe great for me. what, specifically, isn't probing? > > > >He is probably talking about their own driver. In that case you have to > >add it to /sys/i386/isa/isa_compat.* or bite the bullet and new-busify > >it. > > Yes....Whose brainstorm was it to use the new convoluted bus nonsense in > FreeBSD 4.0? Clearly someone who never wrote a driver with a complex > controller with indexed memory mapped registers.Whats next, assembler drivers? While you're still rummaging for the Kynar and the wire-wrap tool, the rest of the universe has moved on. Sorry about that, but if we're going to hope to support your hardware, let alone anyone else's, on a machine that was built after paisely manual covers went out of vogue, we need a bus architecture to match. I spend a goodly amount of time supporting vendors writing drivers for FreeBSD, and so far you're about the only curmudgeon that hasn't realised under their own power the advantages of a structured design. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message