From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 5 22:53:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34EF0CAC for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 22:53:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A75D01441 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 22:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mandree.no-ip.org ([78.48.70.32]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LnkiR-1VaVLK36Ap-00hv7H for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:52:57 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost6.localdomain6 [IPv6:::1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887B523CE92 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 23:52:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <52F2C0C8.5010203@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:52:56 +0100 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Ports-Announce] Time to bid farewell to the old pkg_ tools References: <201402052202.s15M2Lha059200@fire.js.berklix.net> In-Reply-To: <201402052202.s15M2Lha059200@fire.js.berklix.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:FQ6OIt8Xxy+86rteTBBT6klZZz+Y3GrXbSXHIttsHg0xO99t8OV 1uHnurCEYH2t4ZYGWsduGRPCi9Kl4B+meRCqXPKoyRsPKXIvDmm5eMmtsiDb4lgHZh/pfgr 5arKAy6cWKp29/Gu+uNca16+VwZ7pEdE2H/l2J+bBwRVLo5OlsJuWVCDs1heR7k4mhodLuc +HDagiZrtpvgfCiYJj6pg== X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 22:53:00 -0000 Am 05.02.2014 23:02, schrieb Julian H. Stacey: > Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 03/02/2014 21:24, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >>>> be beneficial in a very short amount of time. Even if you prefer to >>>> compile from source, >>> =20 >>> I use source, rarely if ever use packages, (except pkg_delete >>> to remove old broken dependencies). No opinion which scrips are better.= >> >>> =20 >>> =20 >>>> you will still reap the benefits of the modern >>>> packaging system. >>> =20 >>> In 10.0 FreeBSD `reaped the benefit` of a default new horrible >>> registry that smells like Microsoft with quasi binary local.sqlite >>> needing special tools. (Yes I know there's an export function.) >>> =20 >>> For 2 decade we've poured scorn on Microsoft & its opaque easily >>> damaged hard to access registry, & lauded how with FreeBSD we can >>> examine & manipulate & repair our text based equivalent with any >>> number of personal choice text tools, & now FreeSBD is burdened by >>> this horrible Microsoft style registry. >> >> You're being absurd. > > Immediately personal criticism is a poor way to start convincing. > > ports/ is not just for package addicts. I never install packages, > but only build & install from ports/. sqlite junk obstructs > /var/db/pkg being accessed by find & grep to debug breaking ports builds. While I have wanted a few of the pkg options to be 100% compatible with the pkg_info options, I never felt the need to dig around in the package system innards other than to debug goofups that originated in the package system itself. Especially not to debug breaking port builds. portmaster has made things quite easy when dealing with source builds.