From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jul 27 3:50:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AE637B408 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 03:50:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28889 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:50:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6RAopI11836 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:50:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:50:51 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: RFC: Removing support for TurboChannel machines from -current Message-ID: <20010727125051.A11811@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After some discussion this is a 'formal' RFC for the following: - removal of support for DEC3000/xxx ('Bird' series) machines - removal of support for the related TurboChannel (TC) support code - (of course) updating docs, release notes accordingly Rationale: DEC3000 & TC support on FreeBSD/alpha has never been stellar to start with. TC never made the transition to SCSI/CAM, making Birds diskless-only boxes. Interest in both working on TC [SCSI] and testing release candidates on Birds is negligable and has been so for a long time. NetBSD/alpha has much better and complete support for the DEC3000 (the alpha NetBSD port was born on them IIRC) so there is a suitable migration path for DEC3000 owners. Unless some **compelling** reasons are brought forward to *not* do this, TC support is going away in -current. Support in -stable will go away at some point in time as well. Whether this is before or after 4.4 is released remains to be seen at the moment. Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message