From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 27 21:22:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4719E1065672 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 21:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3248FC16 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 21:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so1707436bkv.13 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:21:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UNP7+SAsxXrckTeiPhgOSqW8GaPdL+S2N5J/u9XdKaw=; b=w++0GXwRxnT+qnC5iWRtuco9Qsliu8Pbq5HsjKVEAyfYygtypjMkbwzy1DfWm4PvaR vo4E0V+mB4UTg6nafry0xyiHcydOkh2cOGV45PDVMyXh3x4jC3TyiBiw/aOYdZacrkLF R4fa70ZluXuDLKNF1QU9aX1Fkss5VEZCHNJOje8fpoAioynUNIQ76UBtnkFMPU1nKpud 1kcKGlekJSAEBKVX9na9XJRMHd0Pu1lBHd2Rl5hsIwTC3lYBhrzacm29KmqKHx8Hvr8b OXKaY2kasqTY7BVgbzUiFg9qQBmFdxbUKqP46lpkPy0KBFHtZyO/j+0pDIuZg59CCD3e 54hg== Received: by 10.204.152.75 with SMTP id f11mr8092559bkw.103.1340832118717; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:21:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: utisoft@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.49.87 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:21:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120627191738.GA55796@server.rulingia.com> References: <4FE97008.2060501@netfence.it> <4FE97AE1.9080109@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4FE9817C.7020905@netfence.it> <4FE99200.7050107@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120626130715.Horde.eb3fPtjz9kRP6ZfjA7sSFoA@webmail.df.eu> <4FE9AB85.3070106@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20120626162055.0b2bdb0d@gumby.homeunix.com> <20120626205641.GD1651@aspire.rulingia.com> <20120627191738.GA55796@server.rulingia.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 22:21:28 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Ilcs3xkJFTlAvsNzsJXz30hU9ps Message-ID: To: Peter Jeremy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Freddie Cash Subject: Re: Port system "problems" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 21:22:00 -0000 On 27 June 2012 20:17, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2012-Jun-26 14:41:32 -0700, Freddie Cash wrote: >>On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote: >>> but I hope the ports build system will not >>> be thrown out as part of the pkgng migration. >> >>Where do you think packages would come from, if not built by the ports tr= ee? =A0;) > > As long as it's still available to users. =A0Presumably most > "packages-only" Linux distros have some sort of build mechanism as > well but it's not readily accessible by ordinary users. =A0I would hope > FreeBSD doesn't go down this path. So do many others. There aren't plans to get rid of the ports tree for users, but nearly all would be highly advised to use packages once we have a decent packaging system. Most of the issues with the ports tree that people have are building on unclean systems; sympathy for inability to build on heavily modified machines is going to become less common. Chris