From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 24 17:31:04 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B3516A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net (firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B0443FBD for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:31:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from richardcoleman@mindspring.com) Received: from titan.criticalmagic.com ([68.213.16.23] helo=mindspring.com) by firecrest.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AOS2h-0004WG-00 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:31:03 -0800 Message-ID: <3FC2B0E4.4060504@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:31:16 -0500 From: Richard Coleman Organization: Critical Magic, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20031124092346.F63116@sbk-gw.sibnet.ru> <16322.12836.446856.133425@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> In-Reply-To: <16322.12836.446856.133425@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 1ee258965991efcb0865379cdb43356e5e89bb4777695beb702e37df12b9c9ef12071dc20acf9ef7a5bf9d6a3523fcff350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Subject: Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: richardcoleman@mindspring.com List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:31:04 -0000 Andrew Gallatin wrote: > So I think the best solution (*) would be to keep /bin/sh statically > linked, and build a dynamic version in /usr/bin that people can use as > an interactive shell. Root's shell remains /bin/sh > > 1) All three (;-) interactive bourne shell users that use nss/ldap get > tilde expansion. > > 2) 3rd party scripts, which are written to be portable and don't use > tilde, don't have to pay for dynamic linking. > > 3) System startup scripts are faster because they use the static > /bin/sh Are you suggesting that (t)csh also move to /usr/bin to match /usr/bin/sh? The screams caused by such a change would be deafening. Richard Coleman richardcoleman@mindspring.com