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Stacey" Cc: postmaster@FreeBSD.org, ctm-users@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: removal of ctm delta mail lists on @freebsd.org Date: Thu, 05 May 2022 18:24:06 +0800 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.14r5893) Message-ID: <3887FF04-276D-45E8-9D34-1D9A4AAA6B8B@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <202205050954.2459rtw7080618@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <202205050954.2459rtw7080618@fire.js.berklix.net> List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/ctm-users List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-ctm-users@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1651746250; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=7a//HaBslIqj0nQ68fzjGqfHTQoPsFSFOz/4+PcXaf4=; b=iGm7JM6OAYv50DT0UBWoRYTq95a8S7eiBwxpLtwBkAnxGI/W2bJouIReoX6YZOKWWgo4Tz 6b70G96K2fyFUlgzJqTCAzj6l4Uzl2wJ+gJdOtw/8Sl0ZXr0pKA3ysiitacg7pSpdcxZgB hASrj8KN+UCgydh5jqBR986LD+YbZUg7PFAUchCRitd8LbSHpFgBJR4fM631SsUdsYVzYQ 44Y1NsXJq/Z3Xo1YOBP9xyiByMniWcPqvIcYXMZIc2F6soZhyzqdc2p5NXTabZWmQmOva2 BOHj5Y8VeKli/JEqBGbxWhvnutxHhBZin2KIUjkq0BpEfiKuB4ZuJiC6Ey4dsg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1651746250; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=vnN0PDZ5s98qv5ChgV0853EmuJznbl9zn8SlqarmS4PuUh9sHzzDw3z6xhJb0Qyu7+hcwD nnlvsM3TAjcMasISYa4WpbBaFWKVeYlRkokfW6iRc06FfmCAoH0gNINd17yGPls2FOam4z tn7RxbQZjrZhWbPJDRe36Zuixt4GPi2ENrdg1LTTeepb3M5dkK1RbP1gtntAn3nLCoEdW4 io8mNeL/pz+uW3Rzl6O8rv1LihKZjfd8qGonlbayRulI4fPlzZqF2rXyrg06UOHRIZ3zNq Y/sU1SlRHo7PkcqCL0hHamNHaC/J7FZpSg5AnfStseRR4YGOwpMt0QzL2oaWDA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2022-05-05 17:53:55 (+0800), Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Reminder to postmaster@freebsd.org No reply received Your message arrived. I've not had time to check. At first glance it looks like those lists were never migrated from mailman to mlmmj and we stopped generating mailman aliases a while back. >> If you @freebsd.org have deleted some or all of those lists, please >> let me >> know & I will delete your addresses from the aliases list >> above, & I would also delete from http://www.berklix.org/ctm/#list I think that's fine. >> BTW if CTM lists dont show up on freebsd.org mailman proves nothing >> either way, >> as a long time back (way before freebsd.org started migration from >> mailman to whatever), >> the admins of mailman on freebsd.org made the ctm delta lists hidden, >> but they still worked. As far as we're concerned, ctm died with cvs, two revision control migrations ago. It's a lot cheaper to reject spam directed at its corpse with "mailbox doesn't exist" at the gate on mx1 than to let the message get as far as mlmmj and reject or bounce it there. Thanks. Philip -- Philip Paeps Senior Reality Engineer Alternative Enterprises