From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 22 09:58:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445CE1065670 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 09:58:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gljennjohn@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6C78FC16 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 09:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so2749705fxm.13 for ; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 01:58:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+TIxG7kEcGT4Uaj7JmaUmRQE9VhUfH31W9PKK35xlxY=; b=kvBhZyFhERwEnphmPVdSYyO9v0/Y51Iz6Jh4n7RzwuGdfZg47X2bM9tncolPiZU/vr KpHPmT7X0A1v8CJ4ZTCAV2dYGpcqelZnQE3+PCqPhQtu/WuKwlEZFxw/K+Q683eK9ApC ZpVM8KKZ8mv3n7aDmInPtnmaDz/b6Hv09Lq/Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qvUX+mHyW5tVPfTmowYmYUBMOCVGagw2gYxKr5nNxWKkhuU24Wzd252Vi0BAwL2OAt 2j7sOczzRudndqY/fW5ZYtr7l1/cLcb42gNyC0yjVbiJEhKCy+WoQ0V3IhBvgS5OFOw+ /IuCA6gInnMhq/zxgpajhnfRTAqeEOpn7QbYA= Received: by 10.223.116.1 with SMTP id k1mr1730351faq.51.1295690308362; Sat, 22 Jan 2011 01:58:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ernst.jennejohn.org (p578E3BC5.dip.t-dialin.net [87.142.59.197]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n1sm3934331fam.16.2011.01.22.01.58.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 22 Jan 2011 01:58:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 10:58:25 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Ulrich =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sp=F6rlein?= Message-ID: <20110122105825.71abfd71@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <20110121222008.GB65811@acme.spoerlein.net> References: <20110120201740.GE24444@acme.spoerlein.net> <20110121222008.GB65811@acme.spoerlein.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.18.7; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC vgrind in base (and buildworld) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gljennjohn@googlemail.com List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 09:58:30 -0000 On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 23:20:09 +0100 Ulrich Spörlein wrote: > On Thu, 20.01.2011 at 21:17:40 +0100, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Currently our buildworld relies on groff(1) and vgrind(1) being present > > in the host system. I have a patch ready that at least makes sure these > > are built during bootstrap-tools and completes the WITHOUT_GROFF flag. > > > > vgrind(1) is only used for two papers under share/doc and we could > > easily expand the results and commit them to svn directly, alleviating > > the need to run vgrind(1) during buildworld. > > > > OTOH, there are much more useful tools to vgrind(1) for source code > > formatting. So do we still have vgrind(1) users out there? > > > > Regards, > > Uli > > [trying to get this thread back on track] > > Does anyone actually care about vgrind in base? Will people be angry if > I unroll the 2 cases where it is used under share/doc? > I personally have never used vgrind, but since it's available as part of /usr/ports/textproc/heirloom-doctools IMO it would be safe to remove it from base, maybe with a note in UPDATING. -- Gary Jennejohn