From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 20 18:56:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379D43C6; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:56:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22d.google.com (mail-ie0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1F4E14; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:56:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 9so2519347iec.4 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:56:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=YCut/lYqlDUNG4/RP+r3iitv8+87si0/wwovUBJa198=; b=DYnmVEfC2vd4zfbwGk0CMwbJyDxxl1tN+kaL99ihUNbiOFvYTSu8e3vKtzLbeiLuXU cR2bnKwgNFfOansAEppdI0V/1/06xzlcL7J/I8R5o8GoMuMEbS/yK9XfatcXpZTDq3lL pyGtWVdWy96bTjcg4GYrVLhl7Ec4nH+hus/MMNJpH98WMy2WPC4dsas48Fe+yVGKAfC4 zzMj5tCyuXlkk8UoK0ld6JloWQHForZwvFtYi5mDTGAFuY1vyG5Jf29rq+JVt1KJ1QcZ 5aqNi/SJTHXM0QD62ATGU1Tix2VssFvT0n9gmJGyGnx7OJd+Ns8yTVCZhSYBzHWzFejl +FJw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.183.233 with SMTP id ep9mr38841igc.87.1363805811674; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.78.71 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:56:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130320141244.GP67352@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <20130314095529.GH53963@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <51492152.2010709@FreeBSD.org> <20130320070957.GK67352@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <3b3e70c0c550b64c4f295e0479d0e681.squirrel@mouf.net> <20130320141244.GP67352@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:56:51 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bUqV-IvhmrGbr_TQaN1Q1181ahc Message-ID: Subject: Re: [CFT] New dialog for ports From: Kevin Oberman To: Baptiste Daroussin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: ports@freebsd.org, Steve Wills X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:56:52 -0000 On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:07:15AM -0400, Steve Wills wrote: >> > >> > I wonder if it is worth to let the question to install dialog4ports. >> > >> > I mean dialog4ports being mandatory you should just be installed directly >> > doesn't it? >> > >> > anyone have an opinion about this? >> > >> > I will remove the question on 27/03 if I got more please do than please >> > don't at >> > that time. >> >> The question does lead one to think it's optional. If it's not optional, >> then there shouldn't be a prompt. I think it should be optional. IMHO, the >> requirement being mandator violates POLA, as does the prompt. These are >> questions that should have been answered before it was committed. >> >> Steve >> >> > > Why would dialog4ports be optional, the dialog(1) from base isn't able to > reflect what the new option framwork does, keeping it and both code to have > both, looks like a non sense to me. bapt, I think you may be missing the point. It's not whether dialog4ports should be default, it's whether you should be ASKED if you want to install it. It's now a dependency of the ports system and, like other dependencies, should just be installed without asking questions. I suspect that, for the most part, you are in violent agreement with those asking THE QUERY, not dialog4ports, to be removed. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com