From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Mon Jan 22 15:52:59 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73AFEC7B34; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B54882020; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9306127342; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:52:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w0MFqfel088558 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:52:41 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w0MFqf8t088557; Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:52:41 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: Emmanuel Vadot cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r328257 - in head/sys: arm/broadcom/bcm2835 dts/arm modules In-reply-to: <20180122153003.664e1613bbf70ab49c5c1541@bidouilliste.com> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <201801220710.w0M7AUm9091853@repo.freebsd.org> <20180122135905.203e19ce94510854777dff63@bidouilliste.com> <88070.1516628327@critter.freebsd.dk> <20180122145117.08173be547f5dd6fef296732@bidouilliste.com> <88258.1516630050@critter.freebsd.dk> <20180122153003.664e1613bbf70ab49c5c1541@bidouilliste.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <88555.1516636361.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:52:41 +0000 Message-ID: <88556.1516636361@critter.freebsd.dk> X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:52:59 -0000 -------- In message <20180122153003.664e1613bbf70ab49c5c1541@bidouilliste.com>, Emm= anuel Vadot writes: >[...] there is no way to >know what the user will do so every node not used by the SBC must be >disabled. [...] until the user explicitly tells us, for instance with the command: kldload /boot/kernel/bcm283x_pwm.ko I'm not sure who was the first to run 386BSD on a laptop 25 years ago, I was certainly one of the first five. Ever since then our explicit goal has been to *not* require reboots for reconfiguration, unless there was no way to avoid it. Nothing you or the "DT guys" can say, can convince me that we should reverse that course. I don't care how it works, but enabling and using PWM on an out-of-the-box RPi should not require a reboot. Over&Out -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .