From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 30 14:51:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DEA106564A for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:51:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryan@shatow.net) Received: from secure.xzibition.com (secure.xzibition.com [173.160.118.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A368FC1C for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:51:51 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=shatow.net; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=sweb; b=C5S9St NvfKEpD75zlW0fJ/Co+K/nvUrPFXLQiJW7pkRw3Qm4bB5oWStWtgIh7nScXXyw41 EBMOWqqDcm+HAvhH6jq/LOzvShVrHNB0SQfR24SZf/pnPg++7gYxi67pacMsST46 XKq/Fi3bmmI8ZF5zIDBrDcbYCzKC6jC5cWQlc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=shatow.net; h=message-id :date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sweb; bh=v7u3o1+6TSO3 D/m04jIw3opVpA+lsADnFuPi6FUOR2I=; b=Fg7nScL6YVvZ6OH5+SE8gKJ2gvbx VdnvpD7RJk4X1mv1g9IXwkU6n7XxdBEOMmq9iRDRfB/TEjB5okZfW2cGspa4PUro Rz8jcjrrT7uHaVBIxy3HegBeOUp4C8Or+RGo9zpSz7fTMb2+f2/mbKW8RJ9+n3Qn SLKBfg4lkVYWv54= Received: (qmail 40220 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2012 09:51:50 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.74?) (bryan@shatow.net@74.94.87.209) by sweb.xzibition.com with ESMTPA; 30 Aug 2012 09:51:50 -0500 Message-ID: <503F7E0B.2040209@shatow.net> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 09:51:55 -0500 From: Bryan Drewery User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jamie Paul Griffin References: <503F3B05.2040607@icritical.com> <20120830134354.GA54128@kontrol.kode5.net> In-Reply-To: <20120830134354.GA54128@kontrol.kode5.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkgng questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:51:52 -0000 On 8/30/2012 8:43 AM, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > [ Mark Felder wrote on Thu 30.Aug'12 at 7:01:43 -0500 ] > >> I think you're very confused about what pkgng is for. At this time, ports >> are STILL the recommended way to install things and keep them up to date. >> Pkgng is the first step required for us to get a better package management >> system so we can shift the community towards primarily using packages. > > Can i ask, why is it that shifting the community to using packages is deemed to be a better approach? I like being able to select configuration options to build software. I have never installed a pre-compiled package since using FreeBSD version 6.x. I recall someone responding in another thread about how people don't like change but surely being able to choose is what end-users want. I am sure this has been discussed at length in other threads and sorry if i'm asking old questions. > > Jamie Supporting binary package upgrades makes it easier all around for most users. It also simplifies enterprise environments. Users can of course build their own packages with custom options and distribute those instead. Make no mistake though, ports are not going anywhere. You don't have to use binary packages if you don't want to. You can still checkout ports and compile and use portmaster/portupgrade. Bryan