From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Nov 20 21:52:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA07070 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:52:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07061 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 1996 21:52:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id QAA11975; Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:20:47 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199611210550.QAA11975@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Who needs Perl? We do! In-Reply-To: from Michael Hancock at "Nov 21, 96 02:22:27 pm" To: michaelh@cet.co.jp (Michael Hancock) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 16:20:46 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, davidn@sdev.usn.blaze.net.au, terry@lambert.org, roberto@keltia.freenix.fr, hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Hancock stands accused of saying: > On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Michael Smith wrote: > > > It's not a question of whether _everyone_ needs it, but whether a > > sufficient number of people need it. I think that so far the evidence > > indicates that this is the case. > > I prefer having it in ports or a different distribution so that it can be > excluded easier. The people who want it excluded include those who don't > care about having perl 5.0 and those who would rather track it > and configure it themselves. If it's to be useful in the base system, there needs to be a segregation between the 'runtime' configuration and the 'development' configuration then. This is one for the Perl advocates to settle. > If it must be put in the base then can we replace perl 4.0 without causing > an uproar? Also, can we agree on the options included? I think that replacing Perl 4 would be trivial; the dependant components of the base system are known to work with perl5, and the general opinion is that little is significantly different. > Perl's size is significant, especially when you consider that it will be > in the cvs tree, the installation, and the checked out sources. Double it > if you have both 4.x and 5.x. There is no way that Perl 4 would be retained. Perl's size is not a real issue; people just need stop thinking that 5M is "big" 8) > Mike Hancock -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[