From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jun 25 17:49:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from picard.skynet.be (picard.skynet.be [195.238.3.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E243E37B406 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:49:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [194.78.241.123] ([194.78.241.123]) by picard.skynet.be (8.11.2/8.11.2/Skynet-OUT-2.11) with ESMTP id f5Q0mSY12505; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 02:48:28 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 02:48:13 +0200 To: "Joseph A. Mallett" , Poul-Henning Kamp From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Query: How to tell if Microsoft is using BSD TCP/IP code? Cc: Wes Peters , Mark Valentine , Adam , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 8:08 PM -0400 6/25/01, Joseph A. Mallett wrote: >> *Cough*Wollongong*cough*hack*wheeze* (THUD!) > > What are the odds anyone on this group remembers Wollongong? Hell, mention > Whitesmiths C Compiler, and people look at you like christians having > hinduism explained to them. I remember Wollongong quite well. Indeed, if you look on the "DNS Resources Directory: Server Software: NetWare, OS/2, VMS, and others" page at , you will note that I reported on interoperability with the Wollongong TCP/IP and DNS implementation many years ago. I wasn't even a Vax/VMS System Manager, although I did have an account on the first Vax/VMS system (a MicroVax II) at the Defense Communications Agency to have TCP/IP software installed on it. This was the admin server used by some friends of mine (who were the Vax/VMS System Managers for the Agency) in a completely different branch, and they were kind enough to give me an account on the system. In return, I helped them test out the TCP/IP implementation with the Unix boxes I had. After these tests were successful, they went on to install Wollongong on all their unclassified machines (and I presume the classified systems, too). And, as long ago as that was (early '90s, but certainly before 1994), it still wasn't even the first Vax/VMS system I had ever encountered. No, that honor would have to go to the Vax/VMS system that was operated by the College of Arts & Sciences at the University of Oklahoma. This machine's primary advantage was that it was on BITNET, so it had better connectivity to the outside world than the machines run by the College of Engineering (the undergrads were allowed to use a PDP 11/70 running something like BSD 2.9, while the honored few grad students got an account on the Vax 11/750 running BSD 4.something). Of course, I also had a slightly ulterior motive for getting an account on the Vax/VMS system -- it had Moria, which was much better than the alternative for Unix (I can't even remember the name of the pale Unix rip-off). IIRC, we're talking something like 1986. Heck, I wouldn't be too surprised to find that a majority of people on this list weren't even born until after 1986. ;-) -- Brad Knowles, /* efdtt.c Author: Charles M. Hannum */ /* Represented as 1045 digit prime number by Phil Carmody */ /* Prime as DNS cname chain by Roy Arends and Walter Belgers */ /* */ /* Usage is: cat title-key scrambled.vob | efdtt >clear.vob */ /* where title-key = "153 2 8 105 225" or other similar 5-byte key */ dig decss.friet.org|perl -ne'if(/^x/){s/[x.]//g;print pack(H124,$_)}' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message