From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Dec 1 09:01:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA21100 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:01:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wakko.visint.co.uk (wakko.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA21089 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:01:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@visint.co.uk) Received: from dylan.visint.co.uk (dylan.visint.co.uk [194.207.134.180]) by wakko.visint.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12145; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 17:01:33 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 17:01:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Roome To: Jamie Bowden cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: annoying spammers... In-Reply-To: <199712011443.JAA07461@gatekeeper.itribe.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Please excuse any vague assumptions. I'm good at them!] On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Jamie Bowden wrote: > We have the domain html.com. We have had it for over 3 years now, but > recently millions of spam messages have gone out on the net with a from > line of 1234567@html.com (the address is always some random number). All > the bounce messages come our server, despite the fact that we didn't send > them. I had to remove the server's ability to recieve mail at html.com > about 2 weeks ago, as it was getting several hundred return mails a > minute. It now routes all mail to @html.com to /dev/null. Not > that it stops my mailbox from filling up with requests from people who > don't know how to read a fscking header who send mail to us whining about > being removed from our lists. *sigh* Why not send an automated reply to all the people who sent you the mail asking them also to complain to whoever it is who is sending the junk mails in the first place, or if you can't find out who is originally sending them get yourself (some account you don't care about!) on the mailing list, so at least you can see the headers. I would hope that someone out there who is responsible for this junk mail is reasonable enough to fake mail from some nonexistant address, especially if you ask them nicely. If not, and if they refuse your quite reasonable request to stop spamming with your email address you can take it up legally with their service provider as they are fraudulently pretending to be you (especially if you set up an account which accepts all mail to @html.com). You've got a case of someone pretending to be you, I'd hope that US law doesn't like that, and you can probably put someone either out of business or in some fairly deep water. SPAM is one thing, 'framing' (!) someone is another bucket of 'something-horrible' altogether. If their service provider doesn't want to know, how about the US courts, I don'y know about you, but if someone started spamming in my name (or on my behalf ?) I'd make damn sure they were sorry, even if it did include hiring some laywers. Steve. Steve Roome - Vision Interactive Ltd. Tel:+44(0)117 9730597 Home:+44(0)976 241342 WWW: http://dylan.visint.co.uk/